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Thanks Jim We only know what we have manufactured because someone reports the quantity involved or tries to ship it to a customer, and some people make mistakes, so there needs to be some checks & balances. We are in a highly competitive business where the customer expects to give us 7 days notice of what they need & if we cannot deliver, they will take that business to someone else. Our lead times on raw materials is often 60 days, so we have to rely on the customer forecasts & estimated annual usage, then have precision in our inventory consumption to avoid any surprises on the eve of a shipment that needs some raw material whose usage was under-reported. We know what our total labor costs are ... payroll totals, but we want to find out what our costs are by individual part that we make for our customers. In our business the parts go through a variety of different types of operations & there is the suspicion that we are very competitive on some types & not so hot on other types, so there is a need to drill down to how well we are doing at a departmental or even work center level. However, we do not want to obtain this data at the cost of burdening the shop floor with a level of paperwork that would impede their productivity. Nor do we want excessive burden on the analysts to mine the BPCS data warehouse for the explanatory treasures. We have been flirting with B2B Auctions where we compete with other manufacturers to quote the production of some new part. In some cases the winner of the auction has been some outfit in which their quoted price is for less than our cost for the materials, in which our management has speculated that those people do not have as good a costing system as we do. But ours could stand improvement. I found a part a few days ago in which the standard material cost is $ 91 & the actual material cost is $ 147 which is a deviation considerably in excess of what I normally see. So I was looking at various tools & reports to try to find out which of the several hundred sub-components was contributing the most to that difference, such as running CST280 one time standard, one time actual, then highlighting different costs & checking times BOM units used. Well I saw some odd stuff like same item 2 different costs (two different for same combination bucket set facility etc. ... which was caused by global contamination) and a purchased item with negative previous level cost (a recurring nightmare that is always a hassle to resolve) & a few other pieces of garbage, but not enough to explain the $ 56.00 variance. We only roll up our standard costs. We never roll up our actual costs, except whatever is done by CST500 called within CST600. I am now suspecting that some human cost maintenance might be a factor, but we have done CST600 for all items in problem facility twice since I noticed this curiosity & the numbers have not changed. We have also had B2B auctions where we have lost the battle by ONE CENT unit price so management has reacted by taking a closer look at the calculation of overhead rates. Traitor me is wondering if one percent less profit might be constructive. Al Macintyre ©¿© > And on a broader philosophical note.... > Why do we still need to enter Actual Hours per operation? Many companies > have gone to backflushing labor as well as material. As one CFO asked "Why > are we spending money to track the cost of labor ? Don't we know what our > labor costs are ??" +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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