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This is a really boring topic-can we drop it. ---------- From: Kevin_Catlin@GM.cytec.com[SMTP:Kevin_Catlin@GM.cytec.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:31 PM To: BPCS-L@midrange.com Subject: Re[2]: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic? Bill My assumption is that you are an IT professional and not an intellectual property lawyer. I think you're talking "out of school" here and suggest you leave such opinions to the legal experts. Further, if your license explicitly restricts you to operate the software on a particular AS/400, then that defines your rights in no uncertain terms. If you don't like the terms of your license, then shame on you for signing it. My opinion on this discussion is that it is frivolous and that we should move on to matters of greater importance. Kevin ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic? Author: BPCS-L@midrange.com at Internet Date: 10/11/2000 11:05 AM Elsberry, > Breaking a software key logic is a 'moral' issue. No it's not, not on it's own. Breaking the logic in order to get something not paid for would be. > Stealing, no matter what the motive, is still stealing. Agreed. But we haven't been talking about stealing have we? We've been talking about overriding the security check. > In the 10 years that I have worked with SSA, > and 5 for them, I have never seen them be so unreasonable as to deny a > permanent key to someone just because they won't pay on-going support for a > non-supported older version. Do you still have contacts there? Call them up and ask them their current standing on this issue, and make sure you talk to the holders of the keys. If by chance you get the answer that goes against what I have proposed, ask them if they ever held that stance this year. If they reply it has never been their policy to withhold the key, then they are lying. If they reply that their current policy is as I have represented it, what is your stance then? > If you have to rationalize why you're doing something like this, it is > probably to appease your own conscience and not to support some flimzy > business reason. Hmm, I would think being unable to operate software that was legally licensed would not be a flimzy business reason; maybe your business is different. Bill _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +--- <<cc:Mail note part>>
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