RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions

["Paul LaFlamme" <laflammep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jim,

Of course I remember you from the NorthEast BPCS User groups. I hope all is
well with you!!

You said, "BPCS4.05 CD MPS & MRP uses LRDTE from ECL
minus lead time in days from either the IIM
or CIC ( if planning by facility)to calculate a suggested
release (start) date."

I don't see the system using the lead time in days and that's the heart of
my dillemma. So for example, suppose I have a customer requirement (LRDTE)
for 2/21/2003 (a Friday) and a shop order open that is going to take only 3
days to run but I have a due date set to 2/28/2003. When MRP500 is run, the
action message is to reschedule the shop order to be due on 2/21/2003. I
really need the order to be due on 2/20/2003 so it can ship on 2/21. I've
put different days in the lead time field of the end item and it still tells
me the shop order should be made due on the LRDTE field's date.

Thanks,

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of James Barry
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:55 PM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


Hi Paul !
BPCS4.05 CD MPS & MRP uses LRDTE from ECL
minus lead time in days from either the IIM
or CIC ( if planning by facility)to calculate a suggested
release (start) date.
SFC500, however, does not give a hoot about lead times.
It takes the due date minus appropriate run, setup,
machine, move & queue to backward schedule the order.
OR it takes start date plus those hours & days to
calculate
due date.
That is why it is so important to have lead times be
as "realistic" as your routing times.
Jim Barry
Belchertown Ma


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On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:15:15 -0500
  "Paul LaFlamme" <laflammep@kennedydc.com> wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>Hi Judi,
>
>To clarify my question - should a lead time set on the
>end item for an item
>master (IIM) (not planning by facility) effect the MPS
>planning for an MPS
>item? What I'm seeing is that once I say an item is an
>MPS item using the M
>code on the Item Master (IIM) the system will not
>consider the lead time
>field in the item master. Instead, it looks solely at the
>BOM and Router to
>determine when a particular shop order must be started to
>finish when
>needed. Now if my BOM components of that end item have
>lead times, the
>system may be factoring that in - I didn't get that far
>yet.
>
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com
>[mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
>Behalf Of Judi Svoboda
>Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:38 PM
>To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
>Subject: RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date
>Questions
>
>
>Paul, if I understand the question, lead time days is for
>purchased as
>well as manufactured items.  If you have different levels
>in your BOM
>need to enter the lead time for each level according to
>actual time to
>produce plus wait move and queue.  Judi Svoboda Ridewell
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul LaFlamme [mailto:laflammep@kennedydc.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:57 AM
>To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
>Subject: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date
>Questions
>
>
>We're using BPCS V405CD(ptf2) and getting ready to begin
>using MPS/MRP.
>We're a discrete order job shop Die Cast manufacturer
>(Order Policy H on
>MPS
>items) and will rely on Customer Orders to drive the MPS.
>
>I see that it is the LRDTE field (Request Date) in ECL
>(Order line file)
>that feeds to the MPS.  The order entry department will
>back the transit
>(shipping) time from our shipping dock to the customer's
>location and
>enter
>that date in the LRDTE field.
>
>The challenge I have is that Shop order due dates, and
>planned order due
>dates as they appear in the MPS system are the same date
>as the REQDATE.
>This means that the system won't plan the shop orders to
>be finished
>till
>some time during the day that the order is supposed to
>ship out.
>
>Is the REQDATE really meant to be a "Request to complete
>manufacturing"
>or a
>"Request to Ship?"
>
>If it is in fact, a request to complete manufacturing,
>would I simply
>back
>the date up by one day. I'd love to hear from other BPCS
>users as to how
>their system is communicating customer requirements to
>manufacturing's
>MPS.
>
>Another way I thought I could handle it is by adding a 1
>day std move
>time
>to the last operation. But this would mean changing the
>router of EVERY
>Item
>and every alternate router as well.
>
>Lead time is for purchase order items, correct?
>
>Also, how are the Schedule Ship Date LSDTE & Schedule
>Receive Dates
>LSCDT
>used by the system? Should these be updated after an MPS
>committment? If
>so,
>by whom?
>
>Thank You!
>
>Paul LaFlamme
>Manager of MIS
>Kennedy Die Castings, Inc.
>508-752-5234 X3044
>
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