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You can hook up a SAN to the iSeries and create an ASP for the IFS to exist in. The costs can be prohibitive. You also need the latest hardware. Throughput with the latest fiber is fast at 2GB connection speeds. No performance issues. Cost and setup will be very expensive and time consuming. It is recommended only for the biggest systems (like mine) that need High availability switched ASPs for both hardware and OS400 redundancy. If you need cheap AS400 Disk units or alternatives go to the estorage site and download the white paper. http://www.estorageinc.com/white_papers/index.htm They sell very cheap drives for the iSeries. Other options are to use file compression in R6, to save space.Works well. Look up LZ1 in your Domino 6 Admin Guide. If you are a small shop you can always switch to linux, solaris, unix, etc for cheaper hardware, software platforms. Windows works too, I use it when I need to save money. Sean domino400-request @midrange.com Sent by: To domino400-bounces domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx @midrange.com cc Subject 06/30/2004 01:00 Domino400 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 95 PM Please respond to domino400@midrang e.com Send Domino400 mailing list submissions to domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at domino400-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Domino400 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Domino using EXTERNAL DASD (jmoreno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 2. Re: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD (Chris Whisonant) 3. Re: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD (rob@xxxxxxxxx) 4. Re: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD (Chris Whisonant) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- message: 1 date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:48:25 -0400 from: jmoreno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD Hello all, We love the stability of Domino in the AS400 however DASD is a concern. My company will not buy additional DASD for our exixting AS400 Domino machine. We are pretty much running at full system capacity. We think that we could have the domino application accessing/maintaining data to an EXTERNAL device ( EMC IP 40700 or anyother storage device) Has anyone been able to setup something like this ? Regards Jorge Moreno Overseas Military Car Sales Woodbury, New York + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This email, including its attachments, may contain information that is confidential and may be protected by federal and/or state laws and regulations, or other confidentiality privileges. This email, including its attachments, may contain non-public information; therefore it is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this email, including its attachments, and notify the sender. The unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this email, including its attachments, is prohibited and may be unlawful. + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ message: 2 date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:10:28 -0400 from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD I am not sure about EMC, but we were considering doing this with a NetApp server and NetApp actually came back and told us that this would not work because the throughput would be about 8MB/second (horrible!!). You can check with EMC to see if they have specs on external storage with iSeries and Domino. Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 803.326.7270 (W) 803.326.6142 (F) domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/29/2004 03:48:25 PM: > > > > > Hello all, > > We love the stability of Domino in the AS400 however DASD is a concern. > My company will not buy additional DASD for our exixting AS400 Domino > machine. > > We are pretty much running at full system capacity. > > We think that we could have the domino application accessing/maintaining > data to > an EXTERNAL device ( EMC IP 40700 or anyother storage device) > > Has anyone been able to setup something like this ? > > Regards > > Jorge Moreno > Overseas Military Car Sales > Woodbury, New York > > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > This email, including its attachments, may contain information that is > confidential and may be protected by federal and/or state laws and > regulations, or other confidentiality privileges. 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The unauthorized use, dissemination, > distribution or reproduction of this email, including its attachments, is > prohibited and may be unlawful. > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > ------------------------------ message: 3 date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:15:50 -0500 from: rob@xxxxxxxxx subject: Re: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD I would think it would be as simple as assigning the directory holding your domino data to that external server. Not that I have any experience doing that though. I question whether the cost/gb is really that different on that machine. Why won't they buy more? Cost/GB? IBM's new drives hold a lot. Also, you can get used drives dirt cheap. We've went both ways. Frame full? An expansion unit is probably cheaper than one of those external units. Or just buy a new iSeries with 70gb drives. Their 400's being obsoleted so they can get in their new pet hardware? Change jobs or learn the new hardware. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com jmoreno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 06/29/2004 02:48 PM Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Fax to Subject Domino using EXTERNAL DASD Hello all, We love the stability of Domino in the AS400 however DASD is a concern. My company will not buy additional DASD for our exixting AS400 Domino machine. We are pretty much running at full system capacity. We think that we could have the domino application accessing/maintaining data to an EXTERNAL device ( EMC IP 40700 or anyother storage device) Has anyone been able to setup something like this ? Regards Jorge Moreno Overseas Military Car Sales Woodbury, New York + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This email, including its attachments, may contain information that is confidential and may be protected by federal and/or state laws and regulations, or other confidentiality privileges. This email, including its attachments, may contain non-public information; therefore it is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this email, including its attachments, and notify the sender. The unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this email, including its attachments, is prohibited and may be unlawful. + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _______________________________________________ This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. ------------------------------ message: 4 date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:22:32 -0400 from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Domino using EXTERNAL DASD Also, you can get internal iSeries storage from eStorage, Inc. (formerly BCC). The pricing for new dasd is significantly less than what IBM charges. You can also get 15k RPM drives that you can use with your current PCI architecture so that you don't have to invest in the PCI-X IOA's (even though that will help as well). Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 803.326.7270 (W) 803.326.6142 (F) domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/29/2004 04:15:50 PM: > I would think it would be as simple as assigning the directory holding > your domino data to that external server. Not that I have any experience > doing that though. I question whether the cost/gb is really that > different on that machine. Why won't they buy more? > Cost/GB? IBM's new drives hold a lot. Also, you can get used drives dirt > cheap. We've went both ways. > Frame full? An expansion unit is probably cheaper than one of those > external units. Or just buy a new iSeries with 70gb drives. > Their 400's being obsoleted so they can get in their new pet hardware? > Change jobs or learn the new hardware. > > Rob Berendt > -- > Group Dekko Services, LLC > Dept 01.073 > PO Box 2000 > Dock 108 > 6928N 400E > Kendallville, IN 46755 > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > jmoreno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 06/29/2004 02:48 PM > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > > Fax to > > Subject > Domino using EXTERNAL DASD > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > We love the stability of Domino in the AS400 however DASD is a concern. > My company will not buy additional DASD for our exixting AS400 Domino > machine. > > We are pretty much running at full system capacity. > > We think that we could have the domino application accessing/maintaining > data to > an EXTERNAL device ( EMC IP 40700 or anyother storage device) > > Has anyone been able to setup something like this ? > > Regards > > Jorge Moreno > Overseas Military Car Sales > Woodbury, New York > > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > This email, including its attachments, may contain information that is > confidential and may be protected by federal and/or state laws and > regulations, or other confidentiality privileges. 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