Thanks for the feedback Carol and Rob...
Is there ANYONE out there that's running Domino 11 on IBM i yet?
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From: Carol.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 08/21/2020 06:29 PM
Subject: RE: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
Sent by: "Domino400" <domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I also have 2 clustered Domino Servers on OS400 7.3, that are at 9.0.1, I
really want to bring them up to 11.01 as part of upgrading OS400 to 7.4
probably early next year.
After going through the documentation and opening a ticket with HCL I am
hopeful to try to upgrade both servers by the end of next month
We too are not a huge shop, but have about 200 email users and no custom
apps, just use some document databases for the most part
Bit nervous hearing about server "restarts" as this is our mail server and
we have no plans to change that anytime soon, so hopefully that is mostly
resolved by now?
I recently upgraded my Traveler Domino server to 11.01FP1 (windows server)
from 9.0.1
Had one issue with ciphers, but HCL walked me through pretty quickly, so I
was pleased with their response time
I too am looking for any experiences anyone has had on this upgrade (man I
miss those ibm developer boards) or links to any other blogs/discussions
that have dealt with this upgrade.
Thanks for any advice :)
Carol Taylor
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date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:20:52 -0400
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subject: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
__________________
We have been at both 9.0.1FP7 (on IBM i) for a long time... had too much
going on last year with a data center move to make any move towards
10.0.1... we have also been at 7.3 of IBM i for a time...
We are wanting to move ahead with IBM i 7.4 later in the year and are also
interested in getting to a more recent Domino (on i) release...
I'm currently wading through blogs and documentation and will be getting
HCL's thoughts on what we should target and what sequence we should move
forward in...
I'm trying to find out for sure if I can move to 7.4 first and then move
towards an upgrade of Domino, or if I need to target a Domino upgrade
first...
Also curious to know if anyone has gone very far yet with running Domino 11
on IBM i in production yet... it seems pretty new to me...
We are a fairly small shop with two Domino servers clustered (each on
separate i in a separate data center).. Around 175 mail/Notes users (mostly
via Citrix), about 20 of them user Traveler on iPhones, and we have one 3rd
party app (QSI compliance software)..
PLEASE PREPARE FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES Effective 4/1/2020:
NS Wheeling-Nisshin will be changing our business name to WHEELING-NIPPON
STEEL
My new e-mail address will be chadb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Our Company Website will be www.wheeling-nipponsteel.com
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message: 2
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:34:51 +0000
from: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
When I get a breather I'm supposed to start looking at Domino 11. Which
will be the first version of Domino supported on IBM i 7.4. (I defy anyone
to find a link from IBM or HCL which says anything earlier is supported.)
At one time there may have been a link stating that some version of Domino
10 was supported but that was scrubbed from the internet.
I am running 10.0.1FP4 on IBM i 7.4.
Domino fixpacks for IBM i at this level are completely different. More of
an uninstall/reinstall.
This has been somewhat stable. "Server Restart Notification" emails are
down to only 1 or 2 a month. Considering that many of our 15 lpars of IBM
i are running multiple servers of Domino each and they are spread across
two P9's and one P8 and all these notifications happen in the very wee
hours of the morning I find it acceptable. I used to report each and
everyone but it became pretty obvious to me that HCL was making data
gathering more onerous to beat you into acceptance.
Honestly I've been running 7.4 so long I can't remember if there was the
usual Java reason forcing the 9->10 upgrade. IBM often did this silly
thing of hardcoding the Java requirements into Domino. In the past they
used to look for '5761-JV1'. One OS upgrade caused issues because they
still had the same java levels but simply renamed it to 5770-JV1. That
change caused Domino not to be available for several months after GA
(Domino changes/fixes are VERY slow). Other times it was changes due to
Java levels being dropped. Again it is hardcoded. Any attempts to use
Domino java environment variables are solely to change between 32 and 64
bit. I don't believe that's documented but it's a fact. I think it may be
documented now after I went to battle over that.
Try this Domino server command:
Show jvm
Mine shows:
08/21/2020 07:23:11 JVM: Java Virtual Machine initialized.
08/21/2020 07:23:11 Java runtime version: 8.0.6.5 -
pap3280sr6fp5-20200111_02(SR6 FP5)
08/21/2020 07:23:11 JVM version: JRE 1.8.0 OS/400 ppc-32-Bit
20200108_436782 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
OpenJ9 - 7d1059c
OMR - d059105
IBM - c8aee39
DSPSFWRSC
5770JV1 *BASE 5050 IBM Developer Kit for Java
5770JV1 *BASE 2924 IBM Developer Kit for Java
5770JV1 16 5116 Java SE 8 32 bit
5770JV1 17 5117 Java SE 8 64 bit
We are mainly using Domino for applications and are still actively
developing applications for it.
We abandoned Domino for email after upgrading to Power 9's and the server
restarts were several times a day and that took months to resolve.
Apparently the same MF* ptf's needed were also making SAP horrifically
unstable and I believe this helped motivate IBM to finally fix that Domino
issue but it was too late to save email on Domino for us. First and only
time I ever opened a "crit sit" with IBM.
Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1
Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Suite 104
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
Ship to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Dock 9C
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
http://www.dekko.com
-----Original Message-----
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ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:21 PM
To: domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
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__________________
We have been at both 9.0.1FP7 (on IBM i) for a long time... had too much
going on last year with a data center move to make any move towards
10.0.1... we have also been at 7.3 of IBM i for a time...
We are wanting to move ahead with IBM i 7.4 later in the year and are also
interested in getting to a more recent Domino (on i) release...
I'm currently wading through blogs and documentation and will be getting
HCL's thoughts on what we should target and what sequence we should move
forward in...
I'm trying to find out for sure if I can move to 7.4 first and then move
towards an upgrade of Domino, or if I need to target a Domino upgrade
first...
Also curious to know if anyone has gone very far yet with running Domino 11
on IBM i in production yet... it seems pretty new to me...
We are a fairly small shop with two Domino servers clustered (each on
separate i in a separate data center).. Around 175 mail/Notes users (mostly
via Citrix), about 20 of them user Traveler on iPhones, and we have one 3rd
party app (QSI compliance software)..
PLEASE PREPARE FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES Effective 4/1/2020:
NS Wheeling-Nisshin will be changing our business name to WHEELING-NIPPON
STEEL
My new e-mail address will be chadb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Our Company Website will be www.wheeling-nipponsteel.com
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message: 3
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:49:56 +0000
from: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
Check out the two links at:
https://archive.midrange.com/domino400/202007/msg00000.html
And check out the link at:
https://archive.midrange.com/domino400/202004/msg00000.html
Rob Berendt
--
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Suite 104
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
Ship to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Dock 9C
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
http://www.dekko.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Domino400 <domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:35 AM
To: Lotus Domino on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
<domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
When I get a breather I'm supposed to start looking at Domino 11. Which
will be the first version of Domino supported on IBM i 7.4. (I defy anyone
to find a link from IBM or HCL which says anything earlier is supported.)
At one time there may have been a link stating that some version of Domino
10 was supported but that was scrubbed from the internet.
I am running 10.0.1FP4 on IBM i 7.4.
Domino fixpacks for IBM i at this level are completely different. More of
an uninstall/reinstall.
This has been somewhat stable. "Server Restart Notification" emails are
down to only 1 or 2 a month. Considering that many of our 15 lpars of IBM
i are running multiple servers of Domino each and they are spread across
two P9's and one P8 and all these notifications happen in the very wee
hours of the morning I find it acceptable. I used to report each and
everyone but it became pretty obvious to me that HCL was making data
gathering more onerous to beat you into acceptance.
Honestly I've been running 7.4 so long I can't remember if there was the
usual Java reason forcing the 9->10 upgrade. IBM often did this silly
thing of hardcoding the Java requirements into Domino. In the past they
used to look for '5761-JV1'. One OS upgrade caused issues because they
still had the same java levels but simply renamed it to 5770-JV1. That
change caused Domino not to be available for several months after GA
(Domino changes/fixes are VERY slow). Other times it was changes due to
Java levels being dropped. Again it is hardcoded. Any attempts to use
Domino java environment variables are solely to change between 32 and 64
bit. I don't believe that's documented but it's a fact. I think it may be
documented now after I went to battle over that.
Try this Domino server command:
Show jvm
Mine shows:
08/21/2020 07:23:11 JVM: Java Virtual Machine initialized.
08/21/2020 07:23:11 Java runtime version: 8.0.6.5 -
pap3280sr6fp5-20200111_02(SR6 FP5)
08/21/2020 07:23:11 JVM version: JRE 1.8.0 OS/400 ppc-32-Bit
20200108_436782 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
OpenJ9 - 7d1059c
OMR - d059105
IBM - c8aee39
DSPSFWRSC
5770JV1 *BASE 5050 IBM Developer Kit for Java
5770JV1 *BASE 2924 IBM Developer Kit for Java
5770JV1 16 5116 Java SE 8 32 bit
5770JV1 17 5117 Java SE 8 64 bit
We are mainly using Domino for applications and are still actively
developing applications for it.
We abandoned Domino for email after upgrading to Power 9's and the server
restarts were several times a day and that took months to resolve.
Apparently the same MF* ptf's needed were also making SAP horrifically
unstable and I believe this helped motivate IBM to finally fix that Domino
issue but it was too late to save email on Domino for us. First and only
time I ever opened a "crit sit" with IBM.
Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1
Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Suite 104
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
Ship to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Dock 9C
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
http://www.dekko.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Domino400 <domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:21 PM
To: domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Domino/IBM i Upgrade Thoughts
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
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__________________
We have been at both 9.0.1FP7 (on IBM i) for a long time... had too much
going on last year with a data center move to make any move towards
10.0.1... we have also been at 7.3 of IBM i for a time...
We are wanting to move ahead with IBM i 7.4 later in the year and are also
interested in getting to a more recent Domino (on i) release...
I'm currently wading through blogs and documentation and will be getting
HCL's thoughts on what we should target and what sequence we should move
forward in...
I'm trying to find out for sure if I can move to 7.4 first and then move
towards an upgrade of Domino, or if I need to target a Domino upgrade
first...
Also curious to know if anyone has gone very far yet with running Domino 11
on IBM i in production yet... it seems pretty new to me...
We are a fairly small shop with two Domino servers clustered (each on
separate i in a separate data center).. Around 175 mail/Notes users (mostly
via Citrix), about 20 of them user Traveler on iPhones, and we have one 3rd
party app (QSI compliance software)..
PLEASE PREPARE FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES Effective 4/1/2020:
NS Wheeling-Nisshin will be changing our business name to WHEELING-NIPPON
STEEL
My new e-mail address will be chadb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Our Company Website will be www.wheeling-nipponsteel.com
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