Re: Dedicated Mapics Backup

["Barb Baase" <BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

   Well, it looks like we are going to go with the offline mode of the data
   collection software so I will be able to have some time to get the
   dedicated backup.  Yay!  We are a solution by Integrated Barcoding
   Systems.  Thanks,

   Barbara Baase
   Assistant IS Manager
   Duro-Last Roofing, Inc.
   525 Morley Drive
   Saginaw, MI  48601
   Phone: 989-753-6486 x2610
   Fax:  989-753-4472

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   From:        Dale Gindlesperger <dale_gindlesperger@xxxxxxxxx>
   To:        MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
   Date:        09/14/2010 08:16 PM
   Subject:        Re: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup
   Sent by:        mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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   Barb,

   Just how "24/7" do you actually have to be?   I ask this because I know of
   many
   3 shift organizations that are nominally 24/7, but actually do a backup
   each
   night during 3rd shift lunch break.  For example, if you use COM_Net and
   MDCC,
   both applications stay up for the users, but the transactions simply don't
   post
   until after the XA backups are completed.  Ditto with non-XA applications,
   for
   example two of my accounts have add-on, in-house written IM transactions
   done
   through green-screen data collection, but those transactions simply wait
   until
   the backups are done.

   Dale (Cork) Gindlesperger, CPIM

   "If you think education is expensive, wait until you see what lack of
   education
   costs...."

   ________________________________
   From: "BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
   Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 8:05:45 PM
   Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup

   This sounds interesting.  I may have to try it.  We do have source code
   for XA.

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:01 PM, "Richard Stover"
   <rstover@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   wrote:

   > At a high level you for sure need to get a dedicated environment long
   enough to
   >run the true XA backup disk-to-disk then back up the save files to tape
   later.
   >As for applications outside XA that do not test for dedicated mode the
   actaul
   >back up process does record locking, not file locking. Therefore if you
   put say
   >a 5 sec. wait in the calling routine to handle the record lock neither XA
   or the
   >other application should care.  Worth experimenting with.
   >
   > Dick Stover
   > Guide Technologies, LLC
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Barb Baase <BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:22 PM
   > To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
   > Subject: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup
   >
   >    I am just wondering, in general, how do people get a dedicated Mapics
   >    backup in a 24/7 environment?
   >    Is it a recommended practice to use SQL servers and synchronize data
   to
   >    them to be used by applications such as shop floor data collection,
   so
   >    that those applications can use the data from the SQL server while
   the
   >    iSeries is down?  My knowledge of SQL and it's abilities is very
   limited
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