From: jt <jt@ee.net>
> Are You saying You can get the passwords off of my 400...?
> You don't need any access or "inside help" to do this...?

what I am saying is that if you will allow me to install an innocent-
looking user-state program (maybe I'm a vendor and you want my
useful package), then if I can sign on, I can gain undetected access
to anything on your machine. We are not talking about breaking in from
the internet. 80% of all computer crimes are inside jobs. Maybe
I just worked for the vendor and the vendor does not know that I
have installed a backdoor.
Clearly, if you never install any software and you never allow
anybody to sign on, your machine is pretty secure.



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