Love it!
Alex Montalvo
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1(917)442-5450 Cell
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From: Timothy Grove <tagrove@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: midrange-jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw: H-1B/offshoring debate at UCLA
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:56:30 -0800 (PST)
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>Well, I guess we just don't get it. How we're SUPPOSED to make money
at a company isn't to WORK for them, we supposed to invest in their
stock! That way we get the return on dividends that outsourcing the
jobs to cheap labor brings.
>
>What? You don't have money to INVEST????? You must not be a real
American. We're ALL rich, right?
>
>Get a job and EARN some money.....Oh, that's right, we outsourced
them. Sorry.
>
>Find something else to do:
>(Do you want fries with that?)
>
>(sarcasm fully intended)
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Alex Montalvo <alexmrpg@xxxxxxx>
>To: Phil_Campa@xxxxxxxx; sking@xxxxxxxxx
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>Subject: Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw: H-1B/offshoring debate at UCLA
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> I agree to a point. when Lou Dobbs first started talking about it he
was
> un-jaded and forthright he has since been riding the issues as a bit
of an
> ongoing skit but it doesn't make the senario any less true.
>
> Alex Montalvo
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> 1(917)442-5450 Cell
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> From: Phil Campa <Phil_Campa@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "Stephen King" <sking@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw: H-1B/offshoring debate at UCLA
> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:26:23 -0800
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> >Who is running the Asylum ?
> >It scares me to think that people listen to a commentator's views
who
> is more
> >concerned about ratings than journalism.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Stephen King"
> > <sking@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent
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> Subject
> > Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw:
> > 11/09/2007 08:01 AM H-1B/offshoring debate
at
> UCLA
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> >I agree that corporate greed is the real problem. I worked my
way up
> from an
> >operator trainee on 3 system/38's to be a project leader in the
> programmer
> >department of my old company I worked at. This after 3 years in
fast
> food trying
> >to do my AA degree at night. I planned to work and retire there,
and a
> few
> >LBO's later, me and 8 others are booted and the headquarters
moved.
> >
> >The programming was outsourced too. So I am with Alex. I got
lucky, I
> work now
> >in the insurance industry and this small company is strong. On
year 9
> now. I
> >hope it will last as long as possible.
> >
> >As a father of two sons, I am discouraging them from the computer
> field, why
> >waste their time in a market constantly shipping jobs overseas?
People
> who keep
> >saying it is a "world economy" and everyone should get with the
> program. I say
> >they are have lost sight of what it means to be American in
> America. Screw
> >NAFTA and the United North America crap. That is exactly what it
is,
> crap.
> >When you put another country or $$$ before the patriotism, you
have
> lost your
> >way.
> >
> >Americans come first, why, because we are in America. Care for
your
> brothers
> >and sisters in this country should come first: "We the People of
the
> United
> >States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice,
> insure
> >domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the
> general
> >Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our
> Posterity, do
> >ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of
> America."
> >
> >Nowhere does it say we have to take jobs from our people
[Americans]to
> give to
> >everyone else and be caretaker for every other backwater country
on
> this planet.
> >Listen to Lou Dobbs on CNN. At least someone represents the
middle
> class. No
> >one else does.
> >
> >God Bless America....
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: midrange-jobs-bounces+sking=gbsio.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:midrange-jobs-bounces+sking=gbsio.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of
> >Alex Montalvo
> >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:29 AM
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> >Subject: Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] Fw: H-1B/offshoring debate at UCLA
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> > I am not prejudiced, I am objective! Should I have
substituted
> Jewish by
> > Williamsburg based? and Eastern Indian by American headdress
> challenged? I
> > have friends of all nationalities I an American Citizen with
> Caribbean
> > Spanish descendants. It's the brazenness of the way companies
> pursue cheap
> > foreign labor that I find insulting.
> >
> > Headhunters have pulled this time and time again " We have a
long
> term 1+
> > year contract all our consultants stay there longer" then two
> months or so
> > later you get " due to budget cutbacks were ending your
contract in
> two
> > weeks" that's happened to me at least 4 times while doing
> everything they
> > asked of me above and beyond most times. But the H1B's stay!
> >
> > One question is there a way to negotiate a contract without
being
> fooled
> > as to length of the project?
> >
> > Alex Montalvo AS/400 Consultant 1(917)442-5450 Cell
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