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Tim: Can you share how successful your project has been with us? What did it cost per LoC ( Line of Code)? Finally, are you past the TESTING PHASE and in Production Yet? Either partially (%) or fully? TIA Glenn ============================================== At 05:10 PM 6/6/97 +0000, you wrote: > > > > > From: Tim Lennon on 06/06/97 17:02 > > "...I am pressed to think manual is better faster and cheaper > Do tell us more..." > > I think it all depends very much on your situation. Our decision not > to use any tools was partly a function of the fact that we couldn't > find anything which matched price and performance requirements. When > we were looking, I think the market was a bit immature. > > You should also consider that, essentially, you'll never get the job > done properly without looking at every line of code, so if you do > decide to look for helper tools, look for ones which cut down a lot > of the donkey work and repetitiveness - moving sources around, > cross-checking, certain testing routines, etc. > > It's a lousy compromise, I know, but I think a successful project > would make good use of both manual and automated techniques. If you > look carefully at what you'll actually be doing, you'll find dozens > of areas where you can cut down the worthless tasks which hack off > your programmers. If you're paying programmers thousands of pounds a > month, it's a good idea to get that money's worth out of them by > using their intelligence and skills, rather than making them do > tasks which can safely be automated. > > (In my humble opinion, he adds, slightly too late...) > > <Soapbox mode Off> > <Disconnect> > > Tim Lennon. >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* This is the Midrange System Mailing List! To submit a new message, * >* send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". To unsubscribe from * >* this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com and specify * >* 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. Questions * >* should be directed to the list owner / operator: david@midrange.com * >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This is the Midrange System Mailing List! To submit a new message, * * send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". To unsubscribe from * * this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com and specify * * 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. Questions * * should be directed to the list owner / operator: david@midrange.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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