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This thread has taken an interesting academic twist. Let us all remember that we work for companies that are in the business to make money (non/not-for profit excluded). So, yes machines are faster, but still not fast enough. Imagine presenting to your management that you want to spend 100K on an AS/400 upgrade and your users won't see any performance improvement. (AKA, selling V3Rx to a V2Rx company) All the company will get from this upgrade is the ability to move programs/display/physicals into production without any downtime. While some managers (very few) might bite, the rest would laugh you out of the office. Or to put it another way, how would you like B50 performance from your brand-spanking new 620? Now, I don't disagree that display/print files should be changeable with a RPLOBJ option, just like programs, but to take the concept to the database is going to far, IMHO. I'd love it, but the machine performance isn't there yet. And remember, the RPLOBJ option on a program compile is a happy side effect to the fact that once a name is resolved the program is called again via its pointer, not via its name. So we tell the program object that it is in QRPLOBJ now, not PRDPGMS and away we go. We aren't actually moving the program, but counting on the fact that it doesn't move. -Walden -----Original Message----- From: James W. Kilgore [mailto:qappdsn@ibm.net] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 1998 9:37 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Design shift of view boothm@ibm.net wrote: > You mean... change the length of the punch card while some of the card > trays are out of the filing cabinets? Now there is a scary thought... > You're right, it is scary, so was fire! ;-) Actually, I'm not talking about changing the length of a card, I'm talking about designing a program that could accept any size card. With the introduction of variable length fields we have now (finally) acheived variable length cards. But even at that we have a fixed number of variables. How do we acheive a variable number of variables? Even allowing for null values for ommited entries we have a "fixed" number of pigeon holes. This is where we (IS staff) spend time and talent to implement instead of solve. Also, the enterprise faces the possibility of information flow shut down during implementation. (regen a data base) Have you ever noticed that in the program feedback area is a value for number of parameters? Why is that there? To remind you that you have x number of parameters, or is it because there can be a variable number? Well, if we can pass a variable number of parameters to a program, why couldn't a RDMS pass a variable number of variables? If we can have a variable number if variables, we eliminate the "fixed" unit record (card) mentality of disk storage. And if the RDMS can't handle it, how do we "design" it? Scary! ;-) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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