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Well I haven't been at this as long as Charlie but when I first attended in 1988 I remember lots of VOLUNTEERS. The organization WAS the MEMBERS. My boss encouraged EVERY ATTENDEE from our company to VOLUNTEER. I personally have two 'For the COMMON Good' pins. For what? VOLUNTEERING, when NOBODY SHOWED UP to lead sessions, we just did a BOF, great-no but better than nothing. I was proud to get them. Now I see in the Green Streek every COMMON 'x nominates y and y nominates x' for a Pin(same people every time too). I guess those pins aren't worth what I thought. I remember CUDS was huge too, and a buffet on the final night for those who stayed - What happened to that?, I even remember big screen TV for some sports events.. Now it seems everybody is paid, Paid staff, Paid session managers. Profit seems to be king. Gotta make money! For WHAT!? COMMON is for the MEMBERS, NOT the STAFF. It seems that all the complaints that I have heard are from members (which INCLUDES many speakers such as Charlie) that services are reduced, prices are higher, sessions fewer, etc etc. I say if the current Staff is not doing what we want, we replace them! After all its our group isn't it? As for the Car, it's a bit over the top. What's the point? What's the message? Is a booth at COMMON worth that much to the advertiser? And Charlie, don't give up. I don't believe that't the answer. I have never believed or will I ever subscribe to punishing the many for the misdeeds of the few. Again, if we believe the current board is out of touch, then toss em out of office! Larry Bolhuis Vice President Arbor Solutions, Inc Grand Rapids, MI lbolhui@ibm.net Charles L. Massoglia wrote: > Does anyone else have a problem with this or am I out in left field. I'm > not sure this is the image I want associated with a user group for which I > volunteer to speak. It sounds more and more like a commercial enterprise. > > I have attended every COMMON since April 1977 in Chicago and have spoken at > every COMMON since October 1977 in Boston. I am debating whether September > 1998 in Anaheim will be my last conference as a speaker. > > Am I overreacting? > > >I hope David doesn't consider this an advertisement and kick me off the > >list ! =:-o > > > >Anyone check out the http://www.common.org/ page lately ? > >Attendees at the Fall COMMON conference can enter a draw to win a SAAB > >9-3 Convertible !!! > > > > > >Win a new SAAB at COMMON's Fall > > Conference in Anaheim! > > > > > > There's a one-of-a-kind SAAB story > >happening at the > > Fall Conference in Anaheim. As > >part of a special > > promotion, SAAB will be taking > >entries in their great > > car giveaway contest. SAAB has > >picked the Fall > > Conference in Anaheim to kick off > >their celebration of > > their Intranet Retail Information > >Systems (IRIS), > > which helps SAAB retailers serve > >customers and > > prospects more efficiently. IRIS > >runs on an AS/400 > > central server and was developed > >jointly by SAAB > > and IBM Global Services. So while you're at the Expo area > >during the Fall > > Conference, stop by the SAAB booth, see an IRIS > >demonstration, learn about > > e-commerce solutions at SAAB and complete your entry in > >their contest. Next thing > > you know, you could be driving a brand-new SAAB 9-3 > >Convertible. For more > > information about SAAB, visit http://www.saab.com > > (Saab USA at http://www.saabusa.com/ ) > > > > > > > >Neil Palmer DPS Data Processing Services Canada Ltd. > > AS/400~~~~~ > >Thornhill, Ontario, Canada ___________ ___ ~ > >Phone: (905) 731-9000 x238 |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= > >Cell.: (416) 565-1682 x238 |__________|_|______|_|______) > >Fax: (905) 731-9202 oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ > >mailto:NeilP@DPSlink.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >http://www.DPSlink.com AS/400 The Ultimate Business Server > > > > > > > >+--- > >| This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > >| To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > >| To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > >| To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > >| Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > >+--- > > > > > > Charlie Massoglia, Massoglia Technical Consulting, Inc. > PO Box 1065, Okemos, MI 48854, USA > 517-676-9700 Fax: 517-676-1006 EMAIL: cmassoglia@voyager.net > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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