Re: AS/400 Gasping For Air ??

["John M Ross" <jross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

IBM is suppose to start an eight page insert in newspapers (Wall Street
Journal, LA, New York) on January 11. So maybe the silence is over.

John Ross
WWW.TS400.COM


-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Ericson <Glenn-Ericson@att.net>
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: AS/400 Gasping For Air ??


>Seems to me that  for many  years Gartner has been
>forecasting an NT  AS/400  shoot out. The winner to be determined
>by some points Gartner makes at that  time.
>
>What I would like to hear  form the list  and IBM AS/400 division is the
> counter points.  Silence has its' own connotations.
>Regards,
>
>Glenn
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>At 09:09 AM 1/4/99 -0500, Mike Crump wrote:
>>This is not the first time the Gartner Group has predicted the demise of
>>the AS/400.  The only reason this one may have some credence is that it is
>>based on application software availability.  Of course, it also assumes
>>that the world continues as it does today.  I don't know if anyone has
ever
>>audited their predictions.  My personal opinion is that they ought to
stick
>>with studies and not predictions.
>>
>>The article was ok.  The main problem was that all 'negative' positions
>>were either backed up by 'statistics' (graphs to those that believe them)
>>and specific events (Baan and Peoplesoft)  whereas all the 'positive'
>>positions were articles (count them, two) published in InfoWorld.  Was the
>>article balanced?  No way.  Negative AS/400 aspects outnumbered positive
>>when chances are, as John pointed out, they perhaps should not be.  Did
she
>>'attempt' to balance it?  Maybe.  As far as I can tell she intended to
>>write a negative article and that's what she did.  I don't necessarily
call
>>that fair.  But what else is the 'free press' good for?
>>
>>The only fair thing the article represented was the Gartner Group report.
>>There was one thing she did get absolutely right, "a research company that
>>sometimes seems to be as interested in shaping trends as in spotting
them".
>>Perhaps we can say the same about others.
>>
>>This article is not the basis for the following conclusion. It is based on
>>InfoWorld's and Ms. Reed's past actions.  I can guarantee you that they
>>don't know how to spell AS/400.  They wouldn't know one if it up and bit
>>them.......somewhere.  Ed Scannell and Maggie Biggs are the two
exceptions.
>>InfoWorld's world (bias) revolves around Microsoft, Oracle, HP, and such
>>others.
>>
>>Respectfully,
>>
>>Mike Crump
>>
>>
>>
>>Roger,
>>On a rare note;  I disagree with your assessments.   If she really
>>wanted to "add balance to the article"  She might have said at least
>>something about the "Double Digit" sales for something like 4 or 5
quarters
>>in a row.  She didn't show the other side of the argument, she only
>>alluded to it by mentioning Maggie's and Ed Scannell's articles.
>>
>>She didn't mention the recent AS/400 forum that was sponsered by IW,
>>and the opinions expressed there.(BTW, did you contribute ?)
>>
>>She Might have even mentioned the major ERP packages the do run on the
>>AS/400.
>>She only highlighted the one survey by Gartner that supports (I believe)
>>her personal views.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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