• Subject: Re: XML and AS/400
  • From: Jim Langston <jlangston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:12:10 -0800
  • Organization: Conex Global Logistics Services, Inc.

It took me quite a while to learn the OO paradigm, working with
Delphi, Visual Basic and VC++, but I do know objects.

And I could write a program in Java, and I did, it just didn't work
correctly.  And it wasn't a fault with my program, per se, but with
Java itself.  Java, at that time at least, and with J++ at least, has
some severe limitations.  Even copying programs from books and
manuals, there were limitations, and very seldom did the program
work as advertised.  They were very slow, or they were buggy,
or they did not work in IE and Netscape, or, in a lot of cases,
all 3.

I have used some Java programs on the internet.  And with my
experience, they are extremely slow for what they are doing.  And
they can be a bit buggy, although not as much as they used to be.
And the majority of the ones I have seen are small programs, not
full applications as would be needed in a business sense.

Again, I reiterate (er, was that redundant?), Java is still a new language,
with all the problems that brings.  It is older and maturer than it used
to be, but it is still in it's early childhood, and I would not trust it
for mission critical operations.  At some point in the future, it will
be mature enough to count on.  Until then, it is still in the development
stages.

And, yes, I know that there are some successful Java programs out
there.  But there are just as many, if not more, unsuccessful ones.

Regards,

Jim Langston

Bob Crothers wrote:

> L.S.,
>
> Rest assured, this is NOT what I was trying to say (that anybody was "not
> intelligent").
>
> Most of the members on this list do fit into the "procedural language"
> category because they are AS/400 folks.
>
> And using an OO language does NOT mean you use object oriented design.  I
> wrote C using a C++ compiler for over a year.
>
> Object Oriented is not complicated...but it is DIFFERENT!  And it takes time
> to learn.  But it is well worth learning.  Not because of Java, but because
> of OO.
>
> If you are that rare exception that can move from a procedural language to
> object oriented design in a matter of days and with no pain, then one of 2
> things apply: You are using your OO language to do procedural programming
> (very possible, even with Java), -or- you are one very exceptional
> programmer and I am blinded by your brilliance.
>
> Regards,
> Bob

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