RE: How can Java eat up 160meg of memory?

[boothm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Brad,  I agree with you today,  but I do feel strides are being made. Java 
today is a lots better than even 6 months ago.  By 2002 it should be 
looking pretty good, especially when I see  NT reaching a point of 
diminishing returns  (excepting for Bill's wallet).


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"Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@taylorcorp.com>
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02/28/2000 06:41 PM
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> 
> Maybe you should try running it on a machine that has a Real Java VM,
> instead of MicroSoft's bolluxed-up version?  (My opinion.., see Sun's
> lawsuit against MS for further details..)
> 
> JLM
> 

Let me get this straight.  I have an NT box.  This is were my data resides
(not by choice).  Someone writes an app that I need.  It's in Java.  Now I
should get a new machine?  Why wouldn't the vendor provide a VM for their
product?  Maybe this one did?  I don't know and I don't care.

--Rant mode on--
Shouldn't the vendor warn me it's gonna be a pig to run because of the VM
used?  Why do they advertise it's in Java then, so you know it will be 
slow
and you should expect to have to reboot every few days even with 160meg of
memory? 

Sounds like Java isn't so great.  I don't care if M$'s VM is bloated, if
Java is so great, it should work without these problems.  Auto clean up my
*ss.

So who's fault is it?  The java hypers?  M$?  The Vendor for not warning 
me
response would be not so great?  Sun for even putting the darn language 
out
there?  Me for using NT without any other choice? IT Managers/Marketers 
for
developing their software in Java just because of the hype so they can 
sell
more?

Enough of the excuses for why Java isn't as hot as they say.  Call it what
it is.  Nothing special.  It will take a lot to prove to me otherwise. And
you know what, if it wasn't so hyped, I probably wouldn't be so hard on 
the
poor language.   But I have yet to see a java app put it's coffee where 
it's
beans are.
--Rant mode off--

Brad


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