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Why was 'Any coding design that relys on an abnormal termination for a unique key error instead of doing a SETLL to see if the key exists before writing a record is just bad design technique' in your reply? I didn't see how that pertained to the persons email in any manner. His steps outlined below didn't do 1 piece of I/O via a program. Frankly the batch program might have been updating the file by doing a CPYF of another file into it with *ADD. In the steps outlined below the key was removed by removing the logical so without a key how could they have even have done a SETLL? Read the email again, and see if you're seeing something that I am not. I saw: 1) Physical file with no key 2) Logical file with unique key 3) Member of logical file is removed, thus there is no longer a unique key 4) Batch program updates physical, might now add duplicate key. 5) An attempt is made to ADDLFM but fails because it cannot rebuild the unique key. Do you see something different? MCUNNING@pct.edu on 03/24/2000 02:13:07 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet To: rpg@cross-check.com@Internet, MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet cc: Fax to: Subject: RE: Logical Files vs. Physical Keys Any coding design that relys on an abnormal termination for a unique key error instead of doing a SETLL to see if the key exists before writing a record is just bad design technique >>> rpg@cross-check.com 03/24/00 10:47AM >>> Yes you can use unique keyed logicals to force your physical unique, that is until the logical gets its data member removed, thus no index maintained, and some batch program updates the physical. Now the logical member cannot be added back because of duplicate unique keys. OOPS! some green program just caused you a big headache in scrubbing the data to remove the duplicates or re-assign the unique keys. Gee what aux files have the key you need to scrub and which record goes to which? Ok that's a worst case scenario but can be prevented by putting the unique key directly on the physical. I have had the index of a physical get corrupted during a power failure and the ups blowing a fuse. It was real easy to recapture ALL the data to a new, freshly compiled, physical with a simple CPYF FROMRCD(1). JMHO and bad experience, it is better to put the lowest level unique key on the physical for forcing the data to remain unique always. Christopher K. Bipes mailto:ChrisB@Cross-Check.com Sr. Programmer/Analyst mailto:Chris_Bipes@Yahoo.com CrossCheck, Inc. http://www.cross-check.com 6119 State Farm Drive Phone: 707 586-0551 x 1102 Rohnert Park CA 94928 Fax: 707 586-1884 If consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, only geniuses work here. Karen Herbelin - Readers Digest 3/2000 -----Original Message----- From: Kaynor@aol.com [mailto:Kaynor@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 7:46 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Logical Files vs. Physical Keys Chris, The reasons you give for keying the physical can be achieved by using the UNIQUE keyword on a logical. Keeping your physicals unkeyed is arguably better because of the flexibility it provides. --Chapin Kaynor Vermont +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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