Re: Value of certification -- MIDRANGE-L

In several past interviews, I have been given technical quizes, both oral
and written.  In the interview for the last position I accepted, I was not
quized on technical subjects at all.  Later, I was told it was because of my
certification.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Berendt" <rob@dekko.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: Value of certification


> This comes up on a periodic basis.  The value of this tends to be on
> your own personal experiences and paradigm.
>
> I've been to interviews in which the certification was all you need to
> get through the technical part of the interview.
>
> Some will argue that testing is meaningless.  These may be the same people
> that argue against standardized testing in schools.
>
> Some will argue that the tests themselves are flawed.  Their argument
> may include that they have RPGIV on the test and that there are many jobs
> out there for people who have no desire to learn or grow, at least for
> the interim.
>
>
>
>
>
> HANSMANL@siouxvalley.org on 04/04/2000 10:22:01 AM
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> cc:
> Fax to:
> Subject: RE: The "greying of Common"  Is it still true?
>
> I agree with Bill - the IBM Tech Conferences are very good!  Granted, I
have
> never been to Common, but if I had a choice I would pick IBM Tech
> Conference.  What does everyone think about IBM Certifications?  I am
> working towards these (my own pocket, so far), and would appreciate any
> comment.  Are they worth it?  Do they help?
> Lee
>
> > ----------
> > From: Bill Erhardt[SMTP:ERHARDT@baldwinhq.com]
> > Reply To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:07 AM
> > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject: RE: The "greying of Common"  Is it still true?
> >
> > Everyone talks about COMMON as if its the only venue for training
related
> > to
> > the AS/400.  Have any of you attended the IBM technical conference?
I've
> > been around the mid range offerings since the hey days of S/3 15D and
for
> > my
> > money the IBM conference is a much more rewarding experience then
COMMON.
> >
> > Just One Persons Opinion
> > Bill Erhardt
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Martin [SMTP:smartin@carefreeofcolorado.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 1:47 PM
> > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > > Subject: RE: The "greying of Common"  Is it still true?
> > >
> > > <snip>COMMON attendees should not be
> > > construed as a representitive sampling of AS/400 shops.  There are
> > > a lot of youngsters around, they all just don't know how to wangle
> > > a trip to COMMON out of the boss.
> > >
> > > To ask the questions another way, how many of the folks that
> > > attend COMMON have to "ask" to go?  How many just write their own
> > > tickets? </snip>
> > >
> > > I am not yet 40. I've been on the AS/400 since Jan.1990 - System38
> > before
> > > that.
> > >
> > > I have asked, hinted, suggested, and otherwise enumerated the reasons
> > why
> > > I
> > > think it would be beneficial to attend COMMON... and I've never been
> > > there.
> > >
> > > My manager (since June, last) has participated (COMMON) in the past
but
> > > makes little effort to budget that in - even with his experience. The
> > way
> > > I
> > > see it, as long as some of you get to go, as long as many of you are
> > > willing
> > > to share what you've learned, and as long as you remain members of
this
> > > list
> > > - I get my education from all of you.
> > >
> > > Steve Martin
> > > Programmer/Analyst
> > > Carefree of Colorado
> > > 303/410.6239
> > > smartin@carefreeofcolorado.com
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