Re: MAKEMONEY cmd

["Simon Coulter" <shc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Hello Rob,

Just popping into defense mode for a moment here.

I'd bet that OS/2 didn't lock up.  Rather the Workplace shell (WPS) did.  
Pedantic 
difference I know but important in the sense that only input devices (keyboard 
and mouse, 
etc) would be hosed.  Background processes would still be chugging away and if 
a TELNET 
server were active you could TELNET into OS/2 and reboot the WPS (i.e., NOT 
reboot the PC 
but only the WPS).  Still bloody annoying and to most users would make no 
difference -- 
most people would give it the three-fingered-salute.

I know OS/2 hangs far less often for me than Windoze in any form for my 
colleagues who 
suffer under Micros~1.  Try this on NT -- VAJ open with a dozen windows, 2 or 
more 
instances of Netscape open, Lotus WordPro open, multiple connections to AS/400 
(FTP and 
PCOMM), 2 or 3 PDF files open in Acrobat reader, e-mail active,  the ICS HTTP 
server 
running, DB2 active, and multiple large file downloads occurring all 
simultaneously and 
still getting work done with good response.  I don't think so .... but business 
as usual 
for OS/2.

I just wish IBM would provide the same level of support for OS/2 as they do for 
NT.  
Specifically VisualAge for Java.  Having spent some time at a site using VAJ 
under NT I 
know OS/2 copes better but VAJ 2 for OS/2 doesn't support the WebSphere test 
environment 
nor a host of other things.  And you wouldn't believe the contortions I went 
through to 
get the AS/400 Enterprise Toolkit for Java to install under OS/2 (it's easy 
enough to 
import the Toolbox jar file but I wanted the full Toolkit integration offered 
under 
windoze).  I got most of it to work except for the bits IBM decided to write 
using windoze 
DLL's -- bastards!

The thing that really rankles is that NT is not so dissimilar from OS/2 to make 
porting 
code difficult.  I'm currently trying to determine what VAJ 3 provides in the 
NT version 
that isn't in the OS/2 version so I can decide if upgrading from VAJ 2 EE to 
VAJ 3 EE is 
actually worth it -- were talking thousands of dollars here so I'm not going to 
chance it.  
If anyone knows I'd appreciate the information.

Hey Jon, so IBM assisted with Windoze success and Microsoft assisted with 
OS/2's demise.  
$tupid, $$tupid, $$$tupid!  I don't suppose M$ planted the odd IBM exec .... 
nah that 
couldn't happen.

Regards,
Simon Coulter.

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//--- forwarded letter -------------------------------------------------------
> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetTalk for Windows NT 4.5-g5)/MIME
> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 09:21:43 -0500
> From: "Rob Berendt" <rob@dekko.com>
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Reply-To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: MAKEMONEY cmd

> 
> I was at a demo of Code/400 years ago, when it only ran on OS/2.  
> It sure didn't help the demo that OS/2 locked up during the middle 
> of the demo.
> 
> ddi@datadesigninc.com on 04/06/2000 08:38:49 AM
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
> cc:    
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> Subject:      Re: MAKEMONEY cmd
> 
> > Why aren't you offended by MS not porting to other platforms? MS publicly
> > promised to port many tools to OS/2 when sales reached a million - sales 
>went
> > way past that figure MS never ported a thing.  IBM on the other hand ported 
>many
> > tools to Windows once 95 was available (after all Windows 3.1 was hardly an 
>OS)     
>       
> i've changed my opinion about micEosoft over the past few years.  and
> the talk from my os/2 friend was an eyeopener.  this was about 3 years
> ago btw.
> 
> but my point was, ibm was telling us that we had to use os/2 to take
> advantage of things like visual rpg.  they weren't getting the word out
> that everyone should use os/2 instead of windows, because it was more
> reliable. 
> 
> nj

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