RE: bonuses

[booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

I've done a bit of selling and my point of view at that time was that my 
effort was inconsequential.  It really was all about what the guys out 
back produced.  If they built stuff their way the product was late, 
cumbersome, bulletproof, unattractive, filled with trivia,  and 
unaffordable.  At that time my feeling was pretty much that they 
determined whether or not we met our goals, the sales people were just the 
 front-line troops, the cannon fodder if you will.


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Booth Martin
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http://www.MartinVT.com
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Klein Ron <ron.klein@brctsg.com>
Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
06/15/2000 04:27 PM
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        Subject:        RE: bonuses

Sorry John,

But it truly was that they never met there goals.  We would imply that I 
was
out their selling their product.  When my bonuses were based off of how 
much
gross sales a company has, I don't see how my ability in IT would affect
sales.
Ron

                 -----Original Message-----
                 From:           John Earl [SMTP:johnearl@400security.com]
                 Sent:           Wednesday, June 14, 2000 8:29 PM
                 To:             MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
                 Subject:                Re: bonuses

                 > I agree with you completely.  Bonuses do seem to be a 
no win
situation.  I
                 > have worked in several companies where bonuses were a 
portion of
your
                 > salary.  But that always depended on how the company 
did.  Of
course they
                 > never met their goals, so I never saw one bonus.

                 This is an interesting read.   "They" never met there 
goals, so "I"
never got a
                 bonus.

                 I think it should read "we" never met our goals....

                 jte

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                 John Earl johnearl@400security.com
                 The PowerTech Group                     206-575-0711
                 PowerLock Network Security www.400security.com
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