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Al:
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- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Al Barsa, Jr.
- Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:09 AM
- To: midrange-L@midrange.com
- Subject: J. D. Edwards Article that I felt was pertinent
Hi,
My apologies if you get this e-mail multiple times, but I think it's important, so I have sent it to midrange-l, as well as bcc:ing several other people to whom I feel it is relevant.
I am not normally in the habit of quoting articles that I get from other sources, but I found this in my e-mail the day before yesterday, and I felt that it was pertinent.
It shows how JDE customers are pushing JDE to extend the life of the World product (which is, as I understand it, completely green screen) as opposed to their One-World product (which as I understand it is totally GUI).
Based on the reactions from very many of our customers, and from what else I hear around the industry, One-World can be very buggy, is difficult to implement, and is very expensive from a CPU/hardware/peripheral perspective.
My read into this is that this is a further illustration as to the failure of client/server computing to deliver, although JDE certainly could have a different perspective.
This is a good piece of journalism written by Timothy Prickett Morgan, MMU's Editor.
I did get permission from midrange computing to post this. However to due such they requested me to put in some advertising for them, which is appended at the bottom of the note so that you don't have to look at it. (*BULLSHIT - I even had to fill out a "permissions document", but they own the copyright, so I have played their game. I guess that's one of the reasons that I write for News/400 today.)
Al
Monday Morning AS/400 Update 07/17/00
A Midrange Computing Publication (http://www.midrangecomputing.com) Timothy Prickett Morgan, Editor ____________________________________________________________
J.D. Edwards Extends WorldSoftware's Life Another Three Years
Being the biggest AS/400 software house in the world can be a difficult existence. On the one hand, J.D. Edwards & Company has a very large and loyal customer base with its WorldSoftware suite of RPG enterprise resource planning (ERP) applications. The WorldSoftware installed base, which is close to 4,000 unique customers worldwide, generates hundreds of millions of dollars of software, services, and support revenues a year for JDE; it has accounted for several billion dollars in revenues over the course of JDE's history, which extends back to the System/38 days. On the other hand, JDE has been peddling its OneWorld suite for AS/400, UNIX, and Windows NT servers for the past three years, and it has been trying to coerce that WorldSoftware base to move to OneWorld.
By and large, even though OneWorld has included many features and interfaces to third-party supply chain management (SCM), customer relationship management (CRM), data warehousing, and e-business applications, WorldSoftware customers have been content to stay with the RPG applications they know and understand and have avoided moving to CASE-tool-generated OneWorld programs, which, according to JDE implementers, do not offer the same performance that the WorldSoftware product does. (That's the nature of hand-tuned vs. CASE-tool coding, and is not a slam against JDE in the slightest.)
Several months ago, according to my sources within JDE, the company brought in dozens of WorldSoftware customers to talk about the future of the WorldSoftware product line, which is set to expire on February 28, 2002. Having survived the Y2K transition and having been under the gun to convert themselves into e-businesses, JDE's WorldSoftware customers said point blank that what they really wanted was for JDE to extend the life of WorldSoftware and put some programmers to work on bringing some of the functionality in the OneWorld suite over to WorldSoftware. In establishing the WorldSoftware Organization, a separate division within JDE, the company is going to do exactly what customers are asking. Specifically, JDE has agreed to support the WorldSoftware suite until February 28, 2005. (The release support lasts through February so companies can get W2 forms out on the old releases.) That's another three years for those 4,000 customers to mull over their options. In addition, JDE has put 50 programmers on the job of building interfaces to WorldSoftware that allow it to link to Siebel System's CRM suite, Ariba's e-commerce suite, and JDE's own Active Supply Chain SCM suite (which JDE got by virtue of its acquisition of Numetrix last year).
Active Supply Chain is actually a UNIX suite developed in IBM's AIX, and for OneWorld customers it is actually supported on the AS/400 through the Portable Applications Solutions Environment (PASE) built into OS/400 V4R4 and V4R5. While JDE could have dropped it in alongside WorldSoftware from the get-go, WorldSoftware has not been a top priority, much less an equal priority, to OneWorld until now.
My sources say that the exact delivery schedule for Active Supply Chain links for WorldSoftware is not yet set, but it is not a software porting issue so much as a service and support issue; it is going to take some time to build the interfaces, to be sure, but it will also take time to get a support organization that is acquainted with both products to help customers use it. Ditto for Siebel and Ariba products and for IBM's WebSphere StoreFront (formerly known as Net.Commerce).
As things now stand, JDE has about 900 developers in total, but many of them work on documentation and other projects. Compared to that number, 50 programmers for the WorldSoftware organization may not sound like a big number, but those 50 programmers have the code base from the AS/400 implementation of OneWorld to work from, which cuts down on the resources necessary to build interfaces to third-party products. JDE also has plans to expand the development roster in the coming months, although exactly how many programmers the unit will ultimately have is unclear. Most significantly, close to 300 of the dedicated 560 tech- support staff at JDE are already on the WorldSoftware product, and that ratio is apparently not going to change as the company adds customers. JDE is very keen on making those 4,000 customers happy, even if they do require a lot less hand-holding on average than the 2,000 OneWorld customers that JDE has worldwide.
IBM is, as you may imagine, thrilled by this announcement from JDE. There are a couple of reasons for this. For one, JDE still sells some new WorldSoftware licenses every year-- WorldSoftware is a big hit in the Asia/Pacific region lately--and each one of those results in an AS/400 sale. Moreover, JDE's products for the AS/400 are probably the most logical alternative for AS/400 shops that want to move from System Software Associates' Business Planning and Control System (BPCS) ERP suite to another suite. Earlier in the year, after years of struggle and decline, SSA was bought by Gores Technology Group, a Los Angeles company that specialized in buying pieces of companies spun out as part of mergers and acquisitions. SSA has some 6,500 customers worldwide, and while Gores is keen on keeping those customers, some are going to jump ship. Perhaps most significantly, with the three-year extension on WorldSoftware's life, IBM, JDE, and their respective partners may actually start promoting the RPG version, which has been updated with graphical interfaces using Seagull Software's JWalk Java GUI tool. Although the anecdotal evidence suggests that it is rare that AS/400- based WorldSoftware customers change platform when they migrate to OneWorld, the sales of AS/400s to new OneWorld customers not coming from WorldSoftware have been low, and increasingly customers opt for non-AS/400 platforms.
In the first quarter of 2000, say my sources at JDE, the AS/400 supported less than half of the revenue that JDE brought in on new shipments of ERP suites, while UNIX and NT got more than half. My best guess is that the actual ratio-- which JDE will not divulge--is 40 percent on AS/400 (with almost all of it being for OneWorld), 60 percent on UNIX and NT. If WorldSoftware sales pick up, the AS/400 could hold steady at 40 percent of JDE's sales, rather than decline to 25 or 30 percent as I reckon it would have in the absence of a revitalized WorldSoftware base. I would also venture that UNIX would get about 30 percent and that Windows NT/2K, by virtue of the increasing emphasis on smaller enterprises in the ERP market, would have got about 40 to 45 percent of the market. But now that WorldSoftware will continue to be a viable product and IBM has powerful Model 270 Pulsar servers at attractive prices, maybe the AS/400 can make up for some lost ground.
IBM and JDE are right now putting together some joint marketing campaigns to bring this message to the WorldSoftware base and to potential JDE customers who might prefer WorldSoftware over OneWorld for the next few years. They will also bring home the message that JDE has been sending out since its user group meeting last month, which is that the company is cool with the idea of the coexistence of WorldSoftware and OneWorld on AS/400s.
Only time will tell what effect JDE's new stance on WorldSoftware will have on the AS/400 market. No matter what, JDE is doing right by its AS/400 customers and IBM's AS/400 business will benefit from that. This sure beats killing off WorldSoftware--unless you happen to make your living migrating WorldSoftware customers to OneWorld, that is.
Story ends here.
Below is what I received from Midrange Computing, with their required advertisement. I have not clicked on the link, but be their guest.
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Al
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