Re: The relevance of COMMON (was Penton to buy Duke - News400 magazine)

["David Keck" <dkeck@xxxxxxx>]

Well, when I compare my out of pocket expenses of attending COMMON and
attending Midrange-L, guess how it works out.  I certainly hope Dave G. is
able to make this economically attractive from his end as well, but that is
not my focus.  If IBM wanted to foot the entire bill for COMMON as well as
pay the air fare and accommodations, etc. of all attendees, then I would say
that COMMON is free ... it's a matter of perspective.
As far as new ideas and networking ... I see that it is here .. within
established protocols.  I know about Al Barsa's connection to TAATOOLS, Brad
Stone's Book, Leif's e-book, and much more all from here.  When I want to
pursue something with someone I take the conversation private ... and it
works quite nicely.  Education is a constant process ... I can't take a week
from customer's and family ... instead I try and push the envelope a little
more each day.  Works for me !
I don't mean to denigrate COMMON or those seeking to put it to good use.
However, it was created 40 years ago to meet needs that otherwise could not
reasonably be met.  Things have changed.  Time for a re-design.  -DaveK

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Kempter <NOERICK.NORCAL@CLEANCITY.COM>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: The relevance of COMMON (was Penton to buy Duke - News400
magazine)


> This user group is NOT free.  It costs David money which he is hopefully
> recouping through the midrange bookstore.  As far as what you are
missing -
> new ideas, networking opporunities for your business and yourself, the
> opportunity to explore solutions that a book or list may not give you, the
> time to commit to educating yourself without the distractions of home or
> office, an opportunity to corner IBM to give them feedback,  and a cool
> handbag.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Keck [SMTP:dkeck@idt.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:29 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: The relevance of COMMON (was Penton to buy Duke - News400
> magazine)
>
> Hi Janet,  Maybe the world is changing.  Anything I can do to save time
and
> money and still achieve my goals will interest me.  Maybe Midrange-L is my
> COMMON.  This user's group is fast, free, relevant, a-political, well
> attended and always in session.  It's a beautiful thing (tear in eye).
>  Most
> of my learning is via books, articles, and this place.  I can download and
> evaluate most vendors software from my home or office.  I wonder what I am
> missing by not attending COMMON.
> -DaveK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jkrueger@andrewscg.com>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Penton to buy Duke - News400 magazine (fwd)
>
>
> > >>Hi! Thought you might find this interesting. Sounds like Penton wants
> to
> > >>resurrect another midrange trade show. Hellena
> >
> > >Don  are you suggesting this would be in competition with or  for
> COMMON?
> >
> > It would be if we let COMMON slide into being just another trade show!
> COMMON
> > needs to be more than just a trade show and bi-annual education
> conference;  any
> > of the midrange magazines can serve that need profitably.  COMMON needs
> to
> be a
> > USER's group promoting relationships and sharing of experience...
> >
> > But maybe I'm alone in thinking COMMON needs to revert back to its
roots.
> Not
> > many have joined us for discussion over in the COMMON Town Hall Meeting
> at
> > http://www.as400network.com/forums/Main.cfm?CFApp=70.
> >
> > COMMON is celebrating 40 years of very rich history in Baltimore this
> November.
> > Maybe that is enough, and it should just go away gracefully?
> >
> > Janet Krueger, in Rochester, probing the list to see if people care...
> >
> >
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