RE: Microsoft and AS/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

Dave,

Are you saying this based on some facts?  Or is it just wishful thinking?

jt

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of David Bulog
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:04 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft and AS/400


Come on be fair guys to Microsoft,as much as I love the AS/400
times have moved on!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on---Windows 2000 Advanced Server and Datacenter Server
would have replaced  the AS/400 at $soft for sure.
There is no way that they would use AS/400s when they sell the above as
being just as mission critical and scalable at a fraction of the cost
of midrange products.

Im studing for MCP exam 70-100 Analyzing requirements and Solution
Architectures and most of the case type questions are aboubt replacing
AS/400s with Microsoft products.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Olliges, James <JOLLIGES@SMURFIT.COM>
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Date: Thursday, 26 October 2000 6:17
Subject: RE: Microsoft and AS/400


>This story is true but old news.  Microsoft has used AS/400's for their
>software distribution for many years.  However, they never allowed IBM to
>use them as a "focus" customer or disclose their use of AS/400 technology
>for obvious reasons.  Bill G. wanted to get off the AS/400 platform as
early
>as 1994-95 but they did not have the technology (scalability) to do so at a
>reasonable cost.  If you ever get a chance to tour the MS Redmond Campus
you
>will be shown plenty of propaganda.  You will see a sea of Compaq servers
in
>an enclosed room that are used to "run the company" as your tour guide will
>explain.  As the tour progresses to software distribution you will see a
>similar room with tinted glass.  Here is the AS/400's running the show but
>you will never know that while on the tour.  I state this from personal
>experience.  I worked for IBM for 8 years and spent the last four
1992-1996
>with IBM Rochester.  I worked with MS on some SNA server issues and other
>technology.  I don't why this would come as a surprise to some people.  Do
>you really think in 1994 that MS could run a global software distribution
>process on Windows NT 3.x?  Just imagine the weekly outages to apply
>hotfixes and service packs.  The next time your looking at MS
shrink-wrapped
>software on the shelves at Best Buy or Comp USA just remember what
>technology allowed it to get there.
>
>"The opinions expressed above are my own and do not necessarily represent
>those of my employer"
>James A. Olliges
>Smurfit-Stone ITD Chicago
>jolliges@smurfit.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Whisonant [mailto:Chris.Whisonant@RHTelCo.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:46 PM
>To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>Cc: Scott.Belk@BankOfAmerica.com; nickyet@millenicom.com;
>rdetjen@infoave.net
>Subject: Microsoft and AS/400
>
>
>
>This was from another list to which I am currently subscribed...
>
>This was on the SAP400 newsgroup.
>
>For all the AS/400 followers out there, you need to get your hands on a
>copy of the Midrange Technology Showcase November issue. There is an
>article on the front page entitled "IBM's Frank Soltis, Uncensored".
>Here's an excerpt:
>
>Dr. Frank Soltis, the IBM engineer who has been called "the AS/400's
>Elvis," recently shared a success story during a keynote speech at a
>user conference in Florida. This particular company was in the software
>distribution business and at one point had 23 AS/400s located around
>the world. The company was a very good customer, went from CISC to
>RISC, and was always one of the first to upgrade to new technology, he
>said. Then came the Year 2000 problem, and despite five years of
>dedicated service during a period of great revenue growth, the company
>decided that it was time to move off the AS/400. So in June of 1999,
>the company unplugged its AS/400s and powered up 1200 NT servers it
>needed to replace them. But things didn't quite go as planned. "They
>found they couldn't make it work," Soltis told the crowd. "Today, one
>year after unplugging their AS/400s, they're back on the AS/400." That
>company is Microsoft. "They viewed that as a point of embarrassment,"
>Soltis said. "We thought it was kind of fun....Can you think of a
>company with greater incentive to move to NT, and they couldn't do it?"
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