Re: Microsoft and AS/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

I agree 100% only we are loosing the war.
By the way, a stable system is more important for a small
company without an EDP staff than fortune 500 companies.
But the judgement is done looking at nice printouts,
friendly looking data entry and so on. I know it means
nothing but.... remeber NOVELL?

--- Wynn Osborne <wynn@praxis.net> wrote:
> Come on? Yes come on guys. Except for the young toughs
> with no street 
> smarts, we are all preaching to the choir.
> 
> I know in my heart that the best computer I've ever
> worked with in my life 
> is the AS/400, PERIOD.
> 
> Bigger IBM iron may be better---I have no first hand
> experience with that, 
> however it would not fray my bigotry one iota.
> 
> Anyone who claims that Microsoft's operating systems have
> any superiority 
> over the AS/400 is a fool. Probably not a fool
> face-to-face, but a fool in 
> the computing world.
> 
> I've said this probably 10 times on this list, but it
> bears repeating:
> 
> If you code an ancient RPG/CL system on an AS/400 using
> the "old fashioned" 
> 1970's structured methodologies, i.e., iterative design,
> coding, & testing; 
> with SEU/DDS/RLU tools (cough, hack, vomit, etc.); it
> will NEVER, EVER BLOW UP.
> 
> I have been in this game 15 years and have yet to be
> proven wrong.
> 
> Microsoft has been in the OS game for 20 years, however
> they have never 
> produced any piece of code that can claim the same fame.
> Further, I would 
> bet my life savings on this: There is no way in Hell that
> a 
> 22-billion-dollar company could run its business on
> NT---that is, unless 
> they used their entire talent pool (software & hardware)
> in writing a 
> system to do so. But we all know that notion to be
> absurd. One half of 
> their pool writes the code---the second half writes white
> papers explaining 
> how to perform workarounds for bugs created by the first
> half.
> 
> "Mission critical and scalable?" Give me a break. You're
> blowing chunks 
> dude---wake up and live a real life. NT is for
> adolescents, desktop 
> businesses, & hackers---the AS/400 is for adults, fortune
> 500 companies, & 
> folks interested in doing real computing.
> 
> BTW, here is one of my favorite articles on the dinosaur
> class of computing 
> folks:
> 
> http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html
> 
> Tell me you young whippersnappers---who knows the game
> better, you or us?
> 
> Cheers,
> Wynn Osborne
> 
> Senior P/A
> 
> At 11:03 AM 10/26/00 +1300, you wrote:
> >Come on be fair guys to Microsoft,as much as I love the
> AS/400
> >times have moved on!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >Come on---Windows 2000 Advanced Server and Datacenter
> Server
> >would have replaced  the AS/400 at $soft for sure.
> >There is no way that they would use AS/400s when they
> sell the above as
> >being just as mission critical and scalable at a
> fraction of the cost
> >of midrange products.
> >
> >Im studing for MCP exam 70-100 Analyzing requirements
> and Solution
> >Architectures and most of the case type questions are
> aboubt replacing
> >AS/400s with Microsoft products.
> >
> >Dave
> 
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