Re: QSYS objects on a full system save -- MIDRANGE-L



Neil,

Thankyou. I wasn't planning a RSTOBJ for a damaged system object, I just knew
the SAVSYS that runs at the beginning of a full system save was skipping an
object in QSYS and I ws trying to find out what. I'm planning to upgrade to V4R4
in the next few weeks anyway. Would you think it wise to reinstall V4R3 first
and make sure there is at least a decent SAVSYS of this level? Am I likely to
run into problems with the upgrade if I have a damaged system object?


Thanks

Adam Driver
Star City
Sydney, Australia






"Neil Palmer" <neilp@dpslink.com> on 05/12/2000 17:02:44

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Adam,

What you are referring to are just the tape labels, they are not object
names from QSYS.  As you surmized they do refer to the Licensed Program
Number plus the VRM.  The next 2 digits are the last two digits of the
language code (24 = 2924 = English Upper/Lower case).  The last 4 digits
are just a sequence # for the LPP files on tape.
If your objective is to try a RSTOBJ for a damaged system program in QSYS
it won't work, unless you're prepared to also go into DST, Display/Alter
Storage, and patch the System Entry Point table.  When the system is
installed or a release upgrade is done, the system entry point table is
updated to contain a reference to system objects by address.  If you just
did a RSTOBJ the address for the object in the S.E.P.T. would be
incorrect.
If you have damaged QSYS objects the recommended method is to reinstall
the operating system.  (Not all the LIC & program products, just the
operating system).  A manual IPL will get you to the menu with the choices
to IPL the system, Install the Operating System, or use Dedicated Service
Tools.  After the operating system is reinstalled you need to reapply the
latest cum PTF package, and any other PTF's for 5769SS1 you may have
downloaded.

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"Adam Driver" <drivera@starcity.com.au>
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2000/12/04 23:24
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Hi Everyone,

On a DSPTAP report from a full system save (option 21 from save menu)
there are
a group of objects listed, all starting with Q, that come before the list
of
libraries saved. As I understand it, these are various objects in QSYS
that are
saved in a particular way so the system can be restored from this tape.

We have one object that caused errors and all I know from the joblog is
the file
seq number (29). Correct me if I'm on the wrong path here, but we had one
save
fall over and then a successful save. The joblog for the unsuccessful save
says
"Output tape for file QSYSTAP in library QSYS could not be closed normally
after
at least 0 blocks were written in file sequence number 29. Ending labels,
tape
marks, or both may be missing from the volume." (There is an entry earlier
in
the job log that says the tape was successfully initialised). I did a
DSPTAP
after the second successful save and file sequence number 29 is an object
called
Q5769SS1430240006. I guessed this is LICPGM (5769SS1) plus version (430).
Is
there any way to tell what the 240006 is? Would the same object in QSYS be
saved
in the same sequence with successive full system saves? Am I on the right
track?
(Is this just perhaps something stupid like the operators using old
tapes?)


Thanks in advance

Adam Driver
Star City
Sydney, Australia

Adam,

What you are referring to are just the tape labels, they are not object names from QSYS. As you surmized they do refer to the Licensed Program Number plus the VRM. The next 2 digits are the last two digits of the language code (24 = 2924 = English Upper/Lower case). The last 4 digits are just a sequence # for the LPP files on tape.
If your objective is to try a RSTOBJ for a damaged system program in QSYS it won't work, unless you're prepared to also go into DST, Display/Alter Storage, and patch the System Entry Point table. When the system is installed or a release upgrade is done, the system entry point table is updated to contain a reference to system objects by address. If you just did a RSTOBJ the address for the object in the S.E.P.T. would be incorrect.
If you have damaged QSYS objects the recommended method is to reinstall the operating system. (Not all the LIC & program products, just the operating system). A manual IPL will get you to the menu with the choices to IPL the system, Install the Operating System, or use Dedicated Service Tools. After the operating system is reinstalled you need to reapply the latest cum PTF package, and any other PTF's for 5769SS1 you may have downloaded.

Neil Palmer DPS Data Processing Services Canada Ltd.
50 Acadia Avenue, Ste.102 AS/400~~~~~
Markham, Ontario, Canada. ____________ ___ ~
Phone:(905) 474-4890 x303 |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||=
Cell.:(416) 565-1682 x303 |__________|_|______|_|______)
Fax: (905) 474-4898 oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\
mailto:NeilP@DPSlink.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.DPSlink.com iSeries 400 The Ultimate Business Server

"Adam Driver" <drivera@starcity.com.au>
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2000/12/04 23:24
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Subject: QSYS objects on a full system save

Hi Everyone, On a DSPTAP report from a full system save (option 21 from save menu) there are a group of objects listed, all starting with Q, that come before the list of libraries saved. As I understand it, these are various objects in QSYS that are saved in a particular way so the system can be restored from this tape. We have one object that caused errors and all I know from the joblog is the file seq number (29). Correct me if I'm on the wrong path here, but we had one save fall over and then a successful save. The joblog for the unsuccessful save says "Output tape for file QSYSTAP in library QSYS could not be closed normally after at least 0 blocks were written in file sequence number 29. Ending labels, tape marks, or both may be missing from the volume." (There is an entry earlier in the job log that says the tape was successfully initialised). I did a DSPTAP after the second successful save and file sequence number 29 is an object called Q5769SS1430240006. I guessed this is LICPGM (5769SS1) plus version (430). Is there any way to tell what the 240006 is? Would the same object in QSYS be saved in the same sequence with successive full system saves? Am I on the right track? (Is this just perhaps something stupid like the operators using old tapes?) Thanks in advance Adam Driver Star City Sydney, Australia










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