• Subject: Re: 400 report to PC file
  • From: MacWheel99@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:20:44 EST

Thanks for all the suggestions for me to work through.  
Wed nite I created a file 2 ways

1. CRTPF source physical file 
Open a member & F15 into it from some report in which it only got 120 
characters ... I experimented with wider targets & still had 120 chop off 
point.

2. Copy RPG that creates report so as to output to DDS 132 wide unkeyed file 
instead of to printer.

I messaged my people asking that they try to transmit BOTH files to our 
auditors & provide feedback on whether both were acceptable & what problems 
needed addressing.  Well they sent both & the reaction was like investors in 
MPS Railroad Tycoon = ECSTATIC ... apparently several co-workers had been 
futzing with this for a week before they asked for my help & in one nite I 
had 2 alternative approaches appearing to be operational & they ignoring my 
"well this is just a test file, not ready for regular usage, and I need to 
figure out if the 120 chop off is non-solveable" & they found my thinking 
unacceptable "this process is probably too cumbersome for users unfamiliar 
with the tools ... in a pressure deadline scenario high risk of accidents."

Instead I have been doing 10-15 minute lessons ... here is how YOU can take 
ANY 400 spool file report to a PDM source document & hey when you on that 
second session to research report you want let's move it up top to simplify 
the F4 search & before you do anything else please key SAVE on that line 
right there & next work with F20 to see where it is chopped off relative to 
the original ... then we go into client access & click on the library file 
member & import it into some PC application like Word & I am telling them how 
to fix the width of the style to eliminate the line wraparound, then parting 
words ... in this demo we copied the whole report, but we could have used 
string search to get beginning & end of just one customer so it could go into 
an attachment to send that customer, and if you find the F1 cumbersome to 
navigate I do have an SEU manual.

Of course I am never happy ... ECSTATIC users begging for lessons HOW they 
can do this should be an MIS dream ... instead I want to argue with my boss 
... silence from auditors so nothing can be wrong ... I read this as 
implementation euphoria where happiness with some new service blinds the 
users to its imperfections & after reality sets in & they really using it, 
they may find out it is really no good.

An open question I need to research is how does the AS/400 keep track of 
reports in spool files in PC access terms ... when they are in Client Access 
or Ops Navigator they want to see if they can click on a 400 report directly 
& not import it into some intermediate file.

Well this led to me doing a lesson on locating their Job # & the fact that I 
think the File # on Spool File or WRKUSRJOB 8 F10 is the sequence of reports 
created by that session, and how to find out what library the reports are in, 
but I not really sure why WRKOBJ PRT02 just has the *OUTQ and *DEVD while 
WRKOUTQ shows several outqs called PRT02 that are not on WRKOBJ & this is not 
a libary list issue because I checked this with *ALL libraries.

But so far I have not been able to give my PC guru a specific path he can use 
to get at a spool file report like say
QSYS /
LIBRARY that contains the *OUTQ /
JOB# of the user that created the report /
USER name involved /
SESSION name or JOBQ name /
FILE name assigned by the program /
DOCUMENT FILE# of the report within the JOB# /
MEMBER if relevant

Are there any such navigational directions?

MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac)
AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax 
interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of 
Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical 
sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838

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