Re: HELP w/ IBM bureaucracy

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

Local company here wanted to start at the top.  Pulled a D&B on IBM.  Found
out who ran it.  And called him up.  Needless to say, some VP intercepted
the call  but the fecal matter rolled down hill really quick!

Rob Berendt

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2 things you may try:
- Write a letter to IBM. They are very sensitive to written document. In
it, name names and explain it the way you did it with us. Do not address it
tou your rep (put her as CC to it). address your note higher at IBM.
- Do what I do when I cant get a correct answer from a rep. Ask for his/her
boss, if that does not work, ask for the boss boss. Insist, the bosses are
the one that can override burocraty.

Good luck

Denis Robitaille
Directeur services techniques
Cascades Inc
819 363 5187
fax 819 363 5177


>>> D.BALE@handleman.com 03/28/01 04:17pm >>>
I've got a situation that's starting to rear it's REALLY ugly head.  This
situation occurred prior to my arrival here and the principal player in our
organization with which this situation occurred is long gone.  As you read
this, please note that I AM NOT JOKING!  Everything I present below is
"factual" as has been told to me by IBM.

We have two AS/400s (both 9406-510's running V3R7) at two of our branches
whose serial numbers begin with '44'.  According to IBM, '44' indicates
that
the box was manufactured outside the U.S. and a serial number beginning
with
'10' indicates that the box was manufactured inside the U.S.

The problem is that IBM's records show these two systems as beginning with
'10' with the correct last 5 digits of the serial number.  This apparently
was
not a problem with all of our previous dealings with IBM since I was told
that, normally, IBM only refers to the last 5 digits of the serial number,
ignoring the first 2 digits.

Several weeks ago, with my new responsibilities to manage all of our
AS/400's,
I attempted to use SNDPTFORD to order SF98370 (PSP).  The system dialed up
IBM, connected, but was returned a message from the IBM connection that "
Service requester not registered with IBM Service." (CPF8C3B).  After
various
calls to our marketing rep, the branch's C.E., and several other IBM'ers
patched through on conference calls, over several weeks, this is what I'm
being told:

Basically, IBM is, for reasons unknown to me or anyone at IBM that I've
talked
to, unable to change their systems to show that the serial numbers on the
two
affected boxes are, in fact, 44* boxes, and not 10*.  What they *are*
supposedly able to do is to "flip a bit" that stays "on" for a period of
time
(have not been told how long a period of time that is) that will allow me
to
use IBM to order cume PTFs and MF PTFs (we do not have a software contract
with them, and I am unable to find paperwork that would tell me whether we
have any with a BP from whom we may have obtained the system from   man,
this
s*cks!).  Also, there is a unexplainable delay for when the "bit" is turned
on; I was told I'd have to wait SIX weeks for the "bit" to be turned on!!!

Upgrading the OS on these boxes supposedly wouldn't solve the problem
either,
even with the subscription service, since IBM will still see our boxes as
44*
instead of 10*.  If I were to attempt an upgrade to V4Rwhatever, I would
have
to make absolutely certain that I had a wide enough window for the "bit" to
remain turned on, or else I'd have to wait another SIX weeks to turn it
back
on.

It gets better.  Last week I politely complained to our marketing rep that
this was causing undue hardship on our company and wanted someone, anyone,
at
IBM to fix this problem once and for all.  It was then that she told me
that
we wouldn't want to do that because if we do, all future software orders
for
these two boxes would have to be handled from overseas, which she strongly
suggested that I would not want to do.  Even if it could be done that way,
she
said, doing so would cause us to lose the ability to transfer our licenses
over to any new AS/400 we would replace the existing AS/400s with
(something
that will probably happen within the next two years).

Again, and in the words of Dave Barry, I am not making any of this up!
This
whole issue has the potential to explode to the point where my company
discards the AS/400s with a more generic solution at the branches.  In
fact, I
have already been called upon by my managers, as part of their new due
diligence responsibility, to make the case for replacing the AS/400s we
have
with new iSeries boxes instead of a more generic server.  I have made what
I
believe is a compelling case with them to stay on the iSeries architecture,
but IBM certainly isn't making my job any easier.

Has ANYONE had to deal with this type of problem before?

PLEASE, try to keep to the topic with useful dialog!  With that in mind,
all
thoughtful replies are solicited and deeply appreciated!

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
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