• Subject: Re: Displaying License Keys
  • From: Neil Palmer <neilp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:25:26 -0400

Larry,

Yep - already preparing to Sound-Off about this !  ;-)

...Neil





Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@arbsol.com>
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2001/05/06 16:17
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There actually IS a software serial number for each system. This number
is SO top secret that not only do virtually all customers not know what
their's is, they don't even know that it exists.

  Way back in the V3R1 days when IBM created the conditions that would
require a new 'System Password', (I'm not sure that's the correct term
but it's what's required to complete an IPL after certain significant
upgrades or extended power off times) we needed that 'password'. Well as
a Business Partner we had access to some forms to fill out and one of
them was a request for this 'password'. On the form was a place for the
software serial number. As I didn't have it I rattled my local branch
and they got it for me but only specifically because I needed for that
form. I was later told that a) I was Never supposed to have that serial
number, b) The IBMer who gave it to me could have been fired, c) there
is no way to see it on the system, d) it is Never printed on any
documents that come with the system. And interestinly a couple days
later that form dissapeared from the BP area on IBMLINK as well.

  I just can't imagine IBM requiring a customer to provide THEM with the
number because you never have it.

  We have had many run-ins with the key center but never one such as
this where IBM is requiring a customer to have something IBM will not
give them!

  Sounds like a very good item for Sound Off. Will you be at COMMON?

  - Larry

Neil Palmer wrote:
>
> Well, if that's what it is I can't name a single customer of ours that
> kept that after a release was installed.  :-(
>
> ...Neil
>
> "Alex A Moore" <alexm@ELLISHOSIERY.COM>
> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> 2001/05/06 04:50
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
>
>
>         To:     <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>         cc:
>         Subject:        RE: Displaying License Keys
>
> Neil,
>
>         I believe that IBM is refering to the serial number that is
> printed on the
> document that looks like a "packing slip", and is shipped with software
> orders.  It looks like the hardware serial number, 5 to 7 alpha numeric.
> It
> may also be on the "media report" that is also shipped with the 
software.
>
> HTH
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Neil Palmer
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:30 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Displaying License Keys
>
> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion - that was what I had tried first before a few
> others mentioned how to display the actual keys.
> Turns out even that isn't good enough for IBM - I'm being told they 
won't
> add the software to the customers order record without the "software
> serial number".  Working with the 400 since 1988 that's the first I've
> ever heard of a software serial number.  Anyone else know what they're
> talking about ?
>
> ...Neil
>
> "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> 2001/05/05 19:52
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>         To:     <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
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>         Subject:        Re: Displaying License Keys
>
> neil - would suggest either a print key of WRKLICINF (work license info)
> detail screen:
> or the option 6 to print detail. - it includes the system name. If 
system
> name not same as serial#,
> then printkey the QSRLNBR sysval (will have same system name). Support
> could
> also easily dial in
> thru ECS to verify.
> since it would be impossible for this screen to indicate your licensed,
> had
> key not been given.
> jim
>                           Display License Information
> S103587A
>                                                              05/05/01
> 22:35:55
>  Product ID  . . . . . . . . :   5769PW1
>  License term  . . . . . . . :   V4R4M0
>  Feature . . . . . . . . . . :   5050
>  Description . . . . . . . . :   Application Development ToolSet/400 
-SEU
>
>  Compliance type . . . . . . :   *KEYED
>  Usage type  . . . . . . . . :   *CONCURRENT
>
>  Usage limit . . . . . . . . :   *NOMAX
>  Last update . . . . . . . . :   09/18/99  12:17:32
>
>  Threshold . . . . . . . . . :   *NOMAX
>
>  Usage count . . . . . . . . :   0
>
>  Peak Usage Information:
>    Peak usage  . . . . . . . :   1
>    Last peak . . . . . . . . :   09/18/99  14:20:25
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Palmer" <neilp@dpslink.com>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Displaying License Keys
>
> > ?
> >
> > ...Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > barsa@barsaconsulting.com
> > Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > 2001/05/04 21:44
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >
> >         To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: Displaying License Keys
> >
> >
> >
> > No, it doesn't happen.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > Al Barsa, Jr.
> > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> >
> > 400>390
> >
> > 914-251-1234
> > 914-251-9406 fax
> >
> > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> > http://www.taatool.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     neilp@dpslink.com
> >                     Sent by:                   To:
> MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> >                     owner-midrange-l@mi        cc:
> >                     drange.com                 Subject:     Displaying
> > License Keys
> >
> >
> >                     05/04/01 03:14 AM
> >                     Please respond to
> >                     MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone know of a way to display the 18 byte license key that has been
> > entered via ADDLICKEY ?
> > (Maybe a DMPOBJ of the *PRDLOD object  - although I can't seem to see 
it
> > there).
> >
> > We have a customer who has licensed RPG & Dev Tools.  As is all too
> > common, IBM's records are screwed up and they don't show the customer
> > having Dev Tools - yet the license key has been entered on the system
> with
> > *NOMAX for users - and who else BUT IBM could have given them the
> license
> > key in the first place ?  I figure if we tell them the license key
> they'll
> > have to admit the customer must have been licensed for it and fix 
their
> > records.  I wouldn't have thought they would have made it difficult to
> > display the key - after all, it's only good on the system you would be
> > displaying it from.
> >
> > Yes the customer screwed up and can't locate the paper with the 
license
> > key or the "proof of purchase" document that IBM ships in that garish
> pink
> > & black striped cover (hoping I suppose that it will be seen and kept 
-
> > but maybe it was spotted by the fashion police and thrown out).
> >
> > ...Neil
>
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Arbor Solutions, Inc.   |
(616) 451-2500          |               (I think, therefore I buy 
iSeries.)
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