• Subject: RE: 250 libraries again (was V3R1 QUSRTOOL, *PRDLOD)
  • From: "York, Albert" <albert.york@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:04:55 -0700

From what I have been reading, it looks like this would be a problem only
for those sites which don't have the ability to change their programs but
will still insist on using more than 25 libraries in their library list.
This sounds like a small group to me and I think IBM took the right
approach.

However, there is a simple solution. Create a version of RTVJOBD that does
what is needed and put it in the library list above QSYS. With all the
talent on this mailing list, I bet someone could come up with it in a couple
of hours. Instead of a new value on the job description use the job
switches. I don't think they are used for much else.

Albert York     


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        Sent:   Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:45 PM
        To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
        Subject:        RE: 250 libraries again (was  V3R1 QUSRTOOL,
*PRDLOD)


        I thought that I answered this before.

         A new job attribute should be created called User Library List
Length
        (USRLIBLLEN ).  '0' would be 25 and '1' would be 250.  Jobs would
get this
        job attribute when submitted from a job description, or it could be
change
        with CHGJOB.  The *JOBD would be populated from *SYSVAL at *JOBD
creation
        time, not execution time.

        I have 3 sentences left!  A technical nit:  This change needs to be
        propagated into the System/38 environment.

        Al

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                            Jim Damato

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                            05/29/01 04:39 PM

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                            MIDRANGE-L

        

        





        The point is that some folks with dinosaurs and legacies can't
recompile.
        They either have lost source, don't have compilers, or are
supporting
        packages that did not provide source and removed observability.  I'm
sure
        there are lots of users running applications where the support has
lapsed
        or the provider has gone out of business.  Al and others are
suggesting
        that an OS/400 enhancement should "do no harm".  In this situation
the
        users' programs will crash due to an OS enhancement.

        I'm curious, Al.  What should IBM have done?  How would you have
        implemented an extension to the user library list?  Please answer in
7
        sentences or less :)

        -Jim



        James Damato
        Manager - Technical Administration
        Dollar General Corporation
        <mailto:jdamato@dollargeneral.com>


             -----Original Message-----
             From: Leland, David [mailto:dleland@Harter.com]
             Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:10 PM
             To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
             Subject: RE: 250 libraries again (was V3R1 QUSRTOOL, *PRDLOD)



             So, what you're saying is that if you changed the user portion
of your
             library list to have more than 25 libraries in it, you'd be
satisfied
             to have an existing program only retrieve the first 25 using
the
             RTVJOBA command?  All for the sake of not having to recompile
your CL
             program?  Sheesh.  Think of the mess that could cause?


             As I mentioned before, you only need to fix your CL programs if
you
             start using more than 25 libraries in your library list.


             Dave


             -----Original Message-----
             From: Goodbar, Loyd (AFS-Water Valley)
[mailto:LGoodbar@afs.bwauto.com
             ]
             Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:18 PM
             To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
             Subject: RE: 250 libraries again (was V3R1 QUSRTOOL, *PRDLOD)





             I wonder why IBM didn't add an additional parameter to the
RTVJOBA
             command
             call LUSRLIBL (long user *LIBL). That way no existing code
needed
             changing,
             and forced you to modify the program only if you needed the
additional

             libraries. Just like any other enhancement should work.
Lobotomies for
             all!


             <stuff snipped>


                              DCL        VAR(&USRLIBL) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(275)
                              DCL        VAR(&CMD) TYPE(*CHAR) LEN(6000)
                              RTVJOBA    USRLIBL(&USRLIBL)
                              CHGLIBL    LIBL(MYLIB1 MYLIB2 QGPL QTEMP)


                 /*  Do my thing, sing my song, yada, yada, yada
             */


                              CHGVAR     &CMD ('CHGLIBL LIBL(' *CAT &USRLIBL
*TCAT
             ')')
                              CALL       PGM(QCMDEXC) PARM(&CMD 6000)


             <snip>


             For this brilliant enhancement, we provide no award.  The
people who
             dreamt
             this up have obviously already been to Mayo for their
lobotomies.


             I cannot believe that for the first time in 22 years, you have
gone
             out of
             your way to break certain users code, and I urge you to add the
             appropriate
             support to the system to avoid this.


             Al


             Al Barsa, Jr.
             Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
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