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Well, I know I spend too much time on a soap box but I cannot resist. First, I think the lesson of OS/2 should be learned by the AS/400 community. When I read, "dropped it without a fight" that sure got me going. IBM fought that fight for a long time. I doubt that they would pick that banner up again. I'm sure all this is old knowledge, but for the sake of those who forgot, OS/2 was a joint venture between Microsoft and IBM. Microsoft dumped in for the opportunity to be the sole provider of Windows. IBM, thinking that Windows was crap while OS/2 was a real operating system felt that this was the way the market would go. I must have read ten thousand emails from people who cried about "it's the marketing" with OS/2. About as many as I see crying about the marketing of the AS/400. What bunk. The three biggest months in OS/2's life, when it sold about 1,000,000 copies per month, had nothing to do with advertising. It was the three months following the release of Windows 95. People had waited since "Chicago" was announced (in the fall of '91, to be delivered 1st quarter '92) until 3rd quarter '95 for Windows next release. When it got there, it was no better than any other Microsoft product, bloated and buggy. So OS/2's sales took off. But three months later, when IBM was inspired to dump 500 million dollars into promoting the OS/2 project, the show was over. IBM was advertising everywhere. People whined and cried that the ads weren't enough, they weren't this, they weren't that. But the problem was the applications hitting the market were all 32bit Windows applications. People were buying those applications, and they couldn't run them on OS/2. What does that have to do with the AS/400? You tell me. The AS/400 had (and maybe still has) more applications available for it than any other server running. It is bulletproof and versatile. It's cost of ownership is lower than any of its competition. But if what is selling is the flashy, GUI apps, then that is where the market is going. The death of the AS/400 is being heralded by those who depend on it most. Java is more than just the "flavor of the month" for the AS/400, it is the chance for the machine to survive in the marketplace. AS/400 shops won't do anything new! IBM has tried everything under the sun to save this machine, but AS/400 shops are killing it. There are a host of VisualAge products, all of which will develop GUI applications to access data on AS/400s, are they in use? When you pick up WAS and develop a website using your 400, you know you are in the minority for web site development, but how much in the minority are you for AS/400 development? How much of the AS/400 community is willing to develop using new tools and new techniques? For gosh sakes, guys, we've been discussing sites that still run S/36 code! Bob still thinks of the AS/400 as a text based green screen machine. That is what is killing it. To many people it is just a dinosaur. The TCP/IP connection I can create to the AS/400 to run my GUI Java application, accessing 400 based files, is just as valid as his twinax based one. Just the same as it is when I access Unix based files instead of Telneting onto their servers and run text based apps. But if we, as AS/400 professionals, can't get past thinking of AS/400s as green screen machines, then that is all they will be in a marketplace that doesn't want those any more. But looking at OS/2, you'll see that IBM doesn't abandon its customers quickly. OS/2 is still supported. I am sure that IBM simply cut back in that area to match the income model so that it was still making money, however slight. So there might be 2 guys patching OS/2 bugs or something. Well, when the AS/400 costs money instead of making it, IBM philanthropy won't include dumping money into a dead machine so you and I can still have jobs. They will cut it back until it makes money. Their fee bases support will be enough to pay the last 2 guys patching OS/400 and the one or two engineers working on the hardware. The bottom line is that the AS/400 depends on the AS/400 development community. Just as Windows depends on the Windows development community. What Microsoft showed us and IBM apparently won't listen to, is that the OS maker needs to control the companies developing for the OS. Microsoft has used force to push developers from one platform to the next. IBM still counts on people to move to the best technical solution. We, as the developers, define what the AS/400 is. We build its perception in the marketplace. So remember that next time YOU are deciding what your next AS/400 application is going to look like. Chris Rehm javadisciple@earthlink.net If you believe that the best technology wins the marketplace, you haven't been paying attention. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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