RE: iseries slide show....

["Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Too much time?  Because I do things visable to the public I have too much
time on my hands?  Ring... ring... Ya, this is wake up calling... :)  

Brad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:26 PM
> To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: iseries slide show....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> YOu mean Erik?  I nominate him, Brad Stone and all the rest 
> of you folks
> that are just bitching and have too much time on your hands...:)
> 
> iseriesnation.org is the site if you product a QUALITY production!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Stone, Brad V (TC) wrote:
> 
> > Where's that guy who did the flash page for iSeries nation. 
>  I nominate him!
> > :)  Either that or I spend a week learning flash.
> > 
> > Brad
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:59 AM
> > > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > > Subject: iseries slide show....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Brad, Doug, et al....
> > > 
> > > You folks put together a GOOD and POSITIVE slide show and 
> > > I'll put it on
> > > iseriesnation.org for the world to have FREE!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Don
> > > 
> > > ----------
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Stone, Brad V (TC) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Doug,
> > > > 
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > > 
> > > > > >I dont need to pay 22.90 to have someone tell me the iSeries 
> > > > > is a good
> > > > > >machine.  If you do, good for you.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think you're missing the point.  The idea is to get the CD 
> > > > > to share with those
> > > > > outside of the choir, when they can watch it at their 
> convienence.
> > > > 
> > > > Like I told JT, now IBM (or BP, whoever...) wants me to buy 
> > > a CD for 22.90
> > > > so that I can have a freakin slide show?  C'mon.  That's 
> > > pretty poor.  I can
> > > > show them how great the iSeries is for free by showing them 
> > > applications
> > > > that run on it.  Is it free shipping, or are they making 
> > > another mint there
> > > > as well?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >Do you really think IBM needs your "benefiting" by 
> > > buying this CD?
> > > > > 
> > > > > As I understand it, the CD was produced by a business 
> > > > > partner, not IBM.  When
> > > > > you order, you are redirected to the BP's site.  So I doubt 
> > > > > IBM gets much
> > > > > monetary benefit from sales of the CD.
> > > > 
> > > > Semantics.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also don't think it is the BP's responsibility to give free 
> > > > > copies to whoever
> > > > > asks.  It is my understanding they produced it on their own 
> > > > > dime.  I haven't
> > > > > seen it yet, so can't comment on the content or quality.  But 
> > > > > the comments from
> > > > > those here who have seen it seem positive.
> > > > 
> > > > Watching people talk about how great the iSeries is 
> > > honestly makes me feel
> > > > warm and fuzzy too!  Like with Al Barsa was on CNBC, I was 
> > > really excited
> > > > about it.  Although I had to end up watching it over the 
> > > net.  :(  It was
> > > > still neat.
> > > > 
> > > > But you still have to lead them to water before they'll 
> > > drink.  And we
> > > > shouldn't be doing the leading.  The person with the 
> > > product should be. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > How IBM can benefit is by increasing exposure and sales of 
> > > > > the machine, not the
> > > > > CD.  At $22.90, I wouldn't say the CD is going to be a money 
> > > > > maker for the BP
> > > > > either.  It sounds to me like they are just trying to recoup 
> > > > > distribution costs.
> > > > 
> > > > They will make money.  And it will also draw money in the 
> > > form of more
> > > > business for them, probably some extra money from IBM 
> > > themselves, etc.  When
> > > > you put out a product like this, it's not to make money 
> > > from the product,
> > > > it's to make money from other means.  It's advertising, and 
> > > having people
> > > > pay for it.  It's really brilliant, actually.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >Man, you should have saved your 22.90 and bought a clue, JT. 
> > > > >  There are
> > > > > >quite a few iSeries proponents that pour their heart and 
> > > > > soul into the
> > > > > >machine and the "nation" that existed before IBM started 
> > > > > theirs.  Saying
> > > > > >"everyone is waiting for IBM to do and pay for it all" is 
> > > > > WAY off base.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > And isn't that exactly what this BP did?  Pour their heart 
> > > > > and soul into
> > > > > producing a CD themselves instead of waiting for IBM?  And 
> > > > > then make it
> > > > > available to us for a nominal fee?
> > > > 
> > > > Oh please....
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Doug
> > > > 
> > > > Brad
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