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    Message----- 
From:   rob@dekko.com 
    [SMTP:rob@dekko.com] 
Sent:   Thursday, July 
    26, 2001 11:17 AM 
To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com 
Subject:        RE: last OS400 ver for M36? 
    Unless of course you accept 
    software from any vendor running V5R1. 
    One example is compile a screen 
    with HLPARA(*RCD) on V5R1 and try to get 
that to run on a machine running anything 
    earlier than V4R5.  And V4R5 will 
only work if you have ptf's SF65906 and 
    SF65976. 
Not 
    counting this bug, sooner or later you'll want to take advantage of 
    a 
newer 
    feature. 
I heard 
    an interesting story this week.  Seems that a software 
    vendor 
polled 
    their customer base, at a user group meeting, as to whether or 
    not 
they would be 
    upset if they stopped supporting anything prior to V4R3. 
    
There were ZERO 
    objections.  They were stunned.  They pulled some of 
    them 
aside to 
    confirm.  Some confessed to being on an earlier version but 
    were 
praying for 
    the day when that vendor would stop supporting the old version 
    
so they would have an excuse 
    for management to upgrade. 
    Rob Berendt 
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A smart person learns from 
    their mistakes, 
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. 
    
                                                                                                                             
    
                        
    "Bale, 
    Dan"                                                                                          
    
                        
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    MIDRANGE-L                                                                                           
    
    I guess I just look at our 
    systems - a development box stuck at V3R2 and 
several other boxes at V3R7 - and these 
    things just keep going and going 
and going.  These will be replaced SOON(Yeah !!!), 
    but for those companies 
who insist on staying with a product that IBM chooses to abandon, I 
    guess I 
don't see 
    any reason to get upset about being stuck on an old release of 
    
OS/400.  In my experience, 
    by the time IBM drops support for a given 
release, that release is stable enough to 
    run without problems for a long, 
long time. 
    Dan Bale 
IT - AS/400 
Handleman Company 
248-362-4400  Ext. 
    4952 
D.Bale@Handleman.com 
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum 
    viditur. 
  
    (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) 
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     From:   Jerome Draper 
    [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com] 
     Sent:   Wednesday, July 
    25, 2001 7:41 PM 
     To:     
    MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com 
     
    Subject:        Re: last OS400 ver for 
    M36? 
         That's 
    the plan for now. 
         
    Jerry 
         Jerome 
    Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976 
     Network and 
    Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's, Windows, 
    
     Linux, 
    Sun, and AS/400 
     Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, 
    Lucent, 3Com and Others ..... 
     <http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax - 
    
     
    jdraper@trilosoft.com <mailto:jdraper@trilosoft.com> 
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          From: Bale, 
    Dan <mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com> 
          To: 
    MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <mailto:MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> 
          Sent: 
    Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:41 PM 
          
    Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36? 
              >what the 
    heck are they supposed to do? 
              Um, why not 
    just stay at V4R4? 
              Dan 
    Bale 
          IT - 
    AS/400 
          Handleman 
    Company 
          
    248-362-4400  Ext. 4952 
          
    D.Bale@Handleman.com <mailto:D.Bale@Handleman.com> 
            Quiquid 
    latine dictum sit altum viditur. 
          
      (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) 
              
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    From:   Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com] 
    
          
    Sent:   Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:04 PM 
          
    To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com 
          
    Subject:        Re: last OS400 ver for 
    M36? 
                      
    Thanks. 
                      
    How many AS/S36 shops are there and what the heck are 
    
          they supposed 
    to do? 
          They could 
    migrate to S36E to get to V4R5 but then S36E sunsets. 
    
          So 
    then 
          
    what? 
                      
    Believe me.  These shops are not going to rewrite to 
    
          native AS400 
    next week. 
          We are talking 
    simple businesses that work fine as is. 
                      
    Joe Frank, senior architect of SSP, told me that you can 
    
          teach a person 
    to 
          run a S36 in 
    one day and they can.  You can teach a person to run 
    
          an 
    AS400 
          in a week and 
    they still can't do it. 
                      
    :-) 
                      
    Jerry 
                      
    Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976 
    
          Network and 
    Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's, 
          Windows, 
    Linux, 
          Sun, and 
    AS/400 
          Representing 
    Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and Others 
          
    ..... 
          
    <http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax - 
    
          
    jdraper@trilosoft.com