Re: Counting users

["Clare Holtham" <Clare.Holtham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Alan,
In the real world, a user may be in the middle of a transaction program and
need to look something up using another program.... and that's only one
example.
Clare

----- Original Message -----
From: "alan shore" <SHOREA@dime.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Counting users


> I'm sorry, but I have to start asking questions. I was hoping that it
would become much clearer once the answers started to appear, but that
has'nt happened.
>
> Why has a User Profile the ability to sign onto the system more than once?
> Surely, the user can only work on one session at a time. If so, why not
limit the number of sessions to 1 per User. What advantage would there be to
having more than 1 session per user?
>
>
>
> >>> <rob@dekko.com> 07/31/01 01:02PM >>>
>
> Have you thought about polling your customer base and see how many are
> actually using dumb 5250 terminals?  You may retrieve many answers:
> 1)  Yes, but only 1 or two at our site, they are expendable
> 2)  No
> 3)  Yes, but please stop supporting them.  Therefore we can finally
> convince management to dump them for PC's.
> 4)  Yes, and so many it would be a serious financial burden on us to
> change.
> 5)  I am using one here, (amidst dozens of PC's) and I'll whine and stomp
> my feet if you stop supporting it.
> I have heard of option 3.  One vendor was talking about doing a minimum
> supported version of OS, and that is what they got.
> Anything other than 4 I wouldn't use as a reason to keep supporting them.
> Heck your licensing issue may be a financial incentive for them to upgrade
> the dumb terminal to a PC.
>
> Please, let's not start the argument for dumb:
>   training
>   concentration of work effort vs games
>   reliability
>   dirty environments
> I am trying to help him help his customers
>
> Ron,
>
> Perhaps you should also check out the 'key' api's and see if you can use
> that technique.  ADDLICKEY and how to check.  This might be a good start:
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/html/as400/v5r1/ic2924/info/apis/sw1.htm
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
>
>
>                     Ron@cpumms.com
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>                     drange.com                 Subject:     Re: Counting
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>                     07/31/2001 10:29 AM
>                     Please respond to
>                     MIDRANGE-L
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> Leif,
>
> <<Did you ever tell us the REASON for wanting this?
>
> I don't think I ever stated it directly, but a couple of people on the
list
> (Al Mac? and Rob) did state it.
>
> We have license agreements to use our software and as part of that we
count
> the number of users using the software. This works fine, but our customers
> want to be able to sign onto multiple sessions on the same terminal and
not
> be counted more than once.  If they're using "dumb" terminals to
accomplish
> this, I don't know how to tell the difference between a user signing onto
a
> single terminal 5 times and a user signing onto 5 terminals.
>
> Ron Hawkins
>
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