RE: Counting Users

["ron hawkins" <hwarangron@xxxxxxxx>]

Tom,

Bummer! I'll have to try this when I get to work on Monday. Just to be sure
I understand.. a second user who signs onto another device and follows the
same steps will get the same TCPIP address as the first user who signed on
and followed those steps. Even though they're sitting at different
terminals? This is not what I wanted to hear.

Ron Hawkins


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of thomas@inorbit.com
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:58 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE:


Ron:

Because it's generally possible to telnet from a system back into itself, I
can take advantage of the following (and I suspect many customers would once
it's understood that they're being charged otherwise):

1. Signon at system MyAS400 to a dumb terminal.
2. Start a second session and issue "telnet MyAS400".
3. Once that second session shows the signon panel after telnetting, signon
at MyAS400 a second time (actually a third time altogether but the second
time within that session window; V5R1 TN5250e could even make this last
signon invisible to the user).

That second session will have made two separate jobs, one job is now running
against a virtual terminal and showing a TCP/IP address for MyAS400 because
that's where the telnet command was run. No matter if this sequence is done
beginning with a dumb terminal or through a ClientAccess session or
whatever, every resulting job will show the same TCP/IP address.

Each telnet session could signon using the same "generic" profile, so every
connection using your app would have the same IP-address/userid combination
and your license scheme would count "1" user license in total. (Unless
you're really counting signed-on users altogether rather than only those
using your product???)

All that is required is any system that has telnet server and client. Could
be the AS/400 to itself (possibly multi-homed even?), one AS/400 to another,
an NT server running a telnet service, whatever. Every device accessed in
this way will show the same, single IP address.

Tom Liotta





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