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Objection you honor..... Random numbers are unknowable beforehand. - Agreed Random numbers have no other description than themselves. - Agreed Random numbers are long.----------------------------Disagree, unless the number ooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeee (1) is considered a long number. seriously thoufg, a number as short as 1 digit can be randomly generated. A random number generator is any machine that fits the first two criteria, such as the machines that pick the lotto numbers (or even bingo) >>> "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org> 08/08/01 01:17PM >>> not at all, but we shouldn't be too high-minded here. Debbie only wanted a PIN number generator. Here is my definition of a random number: "a number is random if I can compute it, but you cannot". some properties: Random numbers are unknowable beforehand. Random numbers have no other description than themselves. Random numbers are long. Now, I'm waiting for all kinds of objections. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Dow <pcdow@yahoo.com> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Random Number Generator > Hi Leif, > > Surely you're not equating randomness with uniqueness are you? > > Regards, > Peter Dow > Dow Software Services, Inc. > 909 425-0194 voice > 909 425-0196 fax > > From: Leif Svalgaard > yes you can fold in the date, but I don't think uniqueness is really a > requirement. > We are talking about a PIN generator, not a random number generator. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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