RE: OO benefits? (was Re: Fast400 Value to iSeries community is less than zero )

["jt" <jt@xxxxxx>]

Thanks so much, Art, for your views...!

I think it boils down to what you said, "However, if that interface is
acceptable, a program written for green screen converts to HTML instantly.
And windows instantly."  And also if the price is acceptable.

It is hard to judge, accurately, how well existing products have met these
two key criteria.


Another fascinating point, among the many: "Our biggest complaint is that we
now have to use PC's, and we have installation issues, Windows version
issues sometimes, etc."  We are rassling with that same issue, are are not
sure if it's POSSIBLE to have a clean implementation on Windoze, for these
reasons...


Thanks again...

jt


"Have a GREAT day...!  And a BETTER ONE TOMORROW~~~:-)" (sm)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Art Tostaine, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:58 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: OO benefits? (was Re: Fast400 Value to iSeries community is
> less than zero )
>
>
> I work with Lansa as well and they are focused primarily on the
> Iseries.  Their product also runs on Windows and Unix.
>
> I don't speak for them, but I guess they have the same idea that
> my company does, the Iseries is the best solution, but I simply
> cannot sell an Iseries every time I go to a new customer.  I have
> to open my software solutions to all comers.  Lansa does that for
> me.
>
> FWIW, I don't use the Lansa for the web product much, but I've
> done some projects.  I find that I have to write a lot of HTML and
> some Javascript to get things right.  The code that I write is
> saved and automatically integrated by Lansa, but I just can't get a
> "web type" web page right out of the box, it sort of looks like WSG.
>
> However, if that interface is acceptable, a program written for
> green screen converts to HTML instantly.  And windows instantly.
>
> We used their Visual Lansa product to develop our
> trucking/transportation package from the ground up.  We are happy
> with that
> product.  Our biggest complaint is that we now have to use PC's,
> and we have installation issues, Windows version issues sometimes,
> etc.
>
> They are talking about Visual Lansa being able to be run in the
> browser by encapsulating it as a SOAP object or something.  I'm not
> sure exactly what that is, but if I can write VL code that runs
> in a browser, it will be awesome.
>
> _________________
> Art Tostaine, Jr.
> CCA, Inc.
> Jackson, NJ 08527
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:16 AM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: OO benefits? (was Re: Fast400 Value to iSeries community is
> > less than zero )
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Pluta
> > >
> > > It's the only independent report so honored.
> >
> > That is, other than the IDC report that says the iSeries beats everybody
> > else in TCO.  At least LANSA seems to still be focused on the
> iSeries as the
> > server of choice.
> >
> >
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