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Re: IBM's version of New Coke (was SOM/DSOM)

Coke still sells "New Coke", and everybody calls the iSeries the AS/400.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

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                    Don
                    <dr2@cssas400.com>        To:     midrange-l@midrange.com
                    Sent by:                  cc:
                    midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     Re: IBM's version of 
New Coke (was  SOM/DSOM)
                    drange.com


                    12/18/01 01:45 PM
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                    midrange-l









Was or IS  ? :)

Problem with the analogy is I wonder if there's iSeries life after
eServer...


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On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 barsa@barsaconsulting.com wrote:

>
> Pete,
>
> IBM's version of new Coke was the eServer.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
>
> 400>390
>
> 914-251-1234
> 914-251-9406 fax
>
> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                     Pete Massiello
>                     <pmassiello@os-solu       To:
midrange-l@midrange.com
>                     tions.com>                cc:
>                     Sent by:                  Subject:     Re: SOM/DSOM
>                     midrange-l-admin@mi
>                     drange.com
>
>
>                     12/18/01 12:17 PM
>                     Please respond to
>                     midrange-l
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Al,
>
>     I agree with you 100%, yet there are people that would complain for
> the exact opposite reason that the AS/400 was not jumping on the new
> technologies nor adapting the new stuff quick enough.  Unfortunately,
> its hard to please everyone.
>
>     Think back years ago when everyone was TCP/IP, and the AS/400 was
> SNA, and could not even spell IP.  Now, it has a great offering in the
> TCP world.
>
>     SOM/DSOM was an absolute abortion, and the lesson should be printed
> up and given to every new IBM development and marketing employee in the
> company.  Its IBM's version of "New Coke".
>
>     JMHO
>
>         Pete
>
> barsa@barsaconsulting.com wrote:
>
> >Don,
> >
> >What you are saying is consistent with my feelings.  IBM now adds the
> >technology de jour to the system, without taking the time to determine
if
> >it is viable.
> >
> >I the olden days, IBM would wait to see that a given technology would
make
> >it, and then add it to the system.
> >
> >As a user community "we" (but, not I Batman) would say to IBM that the
> >AS/400 was slow to market.  IBM's contention is that they waited and got
> it
> >hardened before it's released.  Now IBM's done an about face.  They
bring
> >out the technology de jour, and harden it up in the field.
> >
> >You just can't have it both ways.
> >
> >Al
> >
> >Al Barsa, Jr.
> >Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> >
> >400>390
> >
> >914-251-1234
> >914-251-9406 fax
> >
> >http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> >http://www.taatool.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                    Don
> >                    <dr2@cssas400.com>        To:
> midrange-l@midrange.com
> >                    Sent by:                  cc:
> >                    midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     SOM/DSOM
> >                    drange.com
> >
> >
> >                    12/18/01 10:59 AM
> >                    Please respond to
> >                    midrange-l
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >As I recall at a west coast COMMON, Jarosh got a ear full from at least
> >one person that had a sizeable inventment in SOM/DSOM and IBM seemed
> >rather ambivalent when he complained about having the rug pulled out
from
> >under him...  Perhaps that's why I haven't seen him at any COMMON's of
> >recent history....
> >
> >
> >
> >>While I'm on the topic, I don't take every recommendation from IBM as
> >>gospel truth.  A very senior IBM exec said to me many years ago, that
if
> >>
> >I
> >
> >>don't immediately drop RPG, and start doing all of my programming in
SOM
> >>and DSOM, that I would be bankrupt in five years.
> >>
> >>Al
> >>
> >>Al Barsa, Jr.
> >>Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> >>
> >>400>390
> >>
> >>914-251-1234
> >>914-251-9406 fax
> >>
> >>http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> >>http://www.taatool.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>                    Jeff Crosby
> >>                    <jlcrosby@dilgardfo       To:     Midrange Mailing
> >>
> >List <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >
> >>                    ods.com>                  cc:
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> >>
> >Help Documents
> >
> >>                    midrange-l-admin@mi
> >>                    drange.com
> >>
> >>
> >>                    12/18/01 08:36 AM
> >>                    Please respond to
> >>                    midrange-l
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>We have 2 Officevision documents left (getting close!) that are help
> >>documents.  I.E. they have the special tags and whatnot to be used for
> >>application help.
> >>
> >>Has anyone run across a slick way to convert these to another type of
> >>help?  Such as UIM or whatever.
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >>
> >>--
> >>-Jeff
> >>
> >>New email address: jlcrosby@dilgardfoods.com
> >>
> >>The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily
> >>the opinion of my company.  Unless I say so.
> >>
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> Pete Massiello
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