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This is a multipart message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Konrad, You are so off base on cost and value add. There has been lots of improvements in each version of the OS. However you choose to take advantage of none of them - therefore to you they've provided no value add. Much like if I compare a diner and a fine restaurant. If for the same price as a cup of coffee in the diner I can get a seven course meal at the restaurant it is of no value add if I choose not to eat any of it. And as far as cost - if you've purchased the software subscription, you've already prepaid for the upgrades in a nice budgetary fashion. What is the difference between a poorly documented buggy new release and a poorly documented buggy old release? The new release has more features and functions. Trust me, I find LOTS of bugs on releases that have been out for a awhile. Actually the 840 was down from around 3pm to around 12:30 midnight. Redundant machine is not in the budget right now. Want to hear the humorous thing? We have a hot backup for the domino applications running on the 840. A nearby 270. But we do not have a hot backup for the ERP, accounting and payroll. I guess email and workflow is more important. But it probably boils down to the fact that Domino includes clustering in their software, at the enterprise level, while OS/400 requires you purchase a third party package. It's not the disk - Domino eats more than our ERP, payroll accounting. Yep our nightly DB2 backup fits on one 3590 tape, then the Domino takes the next 3 or 4. (And the TSM backup of our PC's to the iSeries takes ten 3581 tapes. Two units run in parallel.) Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Konrad Underkofler <kdunderk@hoshizaki.com> Sent by: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com 08/16/2002 12:29 PM Please respond to midrange-l To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com> cc: Fax to: Subject: RE: 5.1 upgrade Rob, If IBM's response to users concerns about the frequency and reliability of OS/400 upgrades is to "publish something" then they deserve the declining business they have. Their current release policy is just a dumb attempt to generate revenue forcing people forward with little value add. Unfortunately those of us that use the 400's for 24/7 operations do not have 2 boxes, one of which would be used to beta test every poorly documented buggy new release of the OS. Any action being taken with IBM over the unreliable 840? An expensive machine down that long would have major repercussions at most companies (ie who picked it? can we get a refund? we need to find something more reliable?) Regards Konrad _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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