Ok Paul - I'll make a serious suggestion.

Is there a user group for this company's software.

As I am in the UK I can't think off the top of my head of a software company 
that has been through so many bankruptcies and buyouts
in 12 years - well I can think of one but I thought they protected their 
software with dongles and didn't have much software on the
400 but on PC's.

If it's an international company they may have other users overseas.

It may not help with your situation but if there are more users co-operating 
and bringing their combined weight to bear on the
company more might get done than just the individual companies.

Hope that makes sense - and is said sensibly.

Jamie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nelson" <p_nelson-br@inil.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: RPG III - Object to Source DE-Compiler


By audit, I meant going with the vendor to the site that is holding the
source code in escrow. Take the tape or CD to someplace that will
permit the library to be restored, and the verify that the version of
the source that is on the media at the escrow site matches what is on
the end-user's machine.

How many people ever go to this length?

Contracts say what the lawyers are told to write.

> In my experience of selling software to people, the contracts are
always looked over with a fine toothcomb - almost as if the legal
> department are justifying their salaries!
>
> Maybe it's just the company I work for! (Connem, Bodgit and Scarper)
Joke - made up name and no relation to any real company of
> that name !
>
> Jamie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Nelson" <p_nelson-br@inil.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:27 PM
> Subject: RE: RPG III - Object to Source DE-Compiler
>
>
> I keep telling the clients to make sure they've got that clause in
> their contracts, but who ever takes the time to audit this?  :-((
>
> > > From: Paul Nelson
> > >
> > > These clients are also trying to protect themselves. The vendor
has
> had
> > > 3 ownership changes and 4 bankruptcies in the last 12 years. If
> nobody
> > > answers the phone when the customer needs a license for a new
> machine,
> > > what are they supposed to do?
> >
> > They better check their agreements for a source escrow clause.  If a
> > software vendor goes out of business, general practice is to have a
> set of
> > source in escrow for their clients.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
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