RE: SQL for performance (overnight batch jobs) -- MIDRANGE-L

Vern,

A PEX trace was run on our batch process and some issues with the current
application came to light.  We are working on addressing them in their RPG,
CL and DDS formats.  After almost every issue identified was a long term
recommendation that involved SQL.  This is the main reason for the interest
in SQL.  It didn't help that I converted an RPG process that was running for
3 days (no that's not a typo and yes some of the RPG code was inefficient)
to a single SQL statement that runs in 6 - 8 hours.  Our manager is pretty
sold on the idea of moving to SQL for the database design and access.  I
wanted to get a head start on identifying some of the things we might
encounter along the way.

Rick

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Vern Hamberg [mailto:vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:37 PM
To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject:        RE: SQL for performance (overnight batch jobs)

Reeve, I agree. Recommending SQL as one-size-fits-all solution for 
performance is wrong-headed, IMO. It depends--on the scope of the change, 
on whether logic is completely rewritten, as Bruce (I think) alluded to in 
his successful example, on other things.

The parallelism advantage only works if you have multiple processors with 
SMP installed. So it depends.

The IO paging advantages that IBM mentions will not occur unless access is 
very sequential (or memory is very large relative to the amount of data to 
be read in) - Expert Cache (*CALC for paging) determines IO request sizes, 
and very random access had better not do much more than the 4k or 16k 
pages. *FIXED will not do larger than 16k IO requests, AFAIK.

My boss, a former IBMer heavily involved in database, has said that you may 
gain 20% in one area, only to lose 40% in another. You've got to be careful 
with these blanket recommendations.

These recommendations might be just right for the original posting party. 
We don't know enough about the situation. But a good PEX profile trace 
could identify bottlenecks in RPG code and point at ways to improve things 
without throwing the whole thing over and starting fresh. Or maybe they are 
recommending a middle ground.

Regards

Vern

At 12:27 PM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>An important function of batch jobs (large and/or overnight) is
>providing batch control totals and other tools accountants (the fact
>that "tools" and "accountants" are contiguous in this sentence should
>not be construed as a political statement) rely on to demonstrate system
>integrity.  In addition, it's a useful form of work management (unless
>you like printing 35,000 invoices interactively).
>
>The revenue accounting environment in the transportation/logistics
>environment is complex: there are pricing, discounting, revenue split,
>revenue allocation, and fuel price fluctuations driving every invoice in
>a high-volume (100/day-20,000/day) environment.
>
>Real-time processing is the solution for just about everything but
>accounting.  Cutoff dates (period end, etc.) are an integral part of the
>"measure and compare" nature of accountancy.
>
>I don't understand how the use of SQL could improve performance in an
>otherwise well-designed (proper use of LF's, etc.) batch application.
>SQL may offer some flexibility with complex joins (for reporting, of
>course) but that's about all I can think of.
>
>-reeve


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