For Y2K we had a similar issue with CA and their Pansophic software; it had
not been under maintenance for some time and they were asking some ungodly
sum to get it up to date in order to get their Y2K version.
When we replied "thanks, but we'll go elsewhere". When they realized some
little money and future maint. revenues were better than none they suddenly
became reasonable.

It's all negotiable

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Erhardt [mailto:ERHARDT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:16 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Data 3 software


CICS to RICS is not a problem.  He will need the talk with SSA about a new
key for his system though.  It is kept in an RPG program (RTMENU02 I think)
but they do not give you the source code.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nelson [mailto:pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:06 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Data 3 software


<Hold the laughter until I finish>

We have just stumbled across a small company that is still running an F10 at
V3R2. The IT manager needed some PTF's that we were able to find and loan
him. He desperately needs to be on a new system, but his software is from
the old Data 3 company, which was purchased by CA, and then by SSA. The
system is heavily modified, and the company quit paying maintenance years
ago. While investigating a new system during the time that the software was
owned by CA, he was told that the charge for getting a new license key would
be $200K.

Do any of you old-timers out there have any experience with Data 3,
specifically as to how they did their serial number checking? Is there a way
around it, or is he hosed? Also, if there is a way around it, how well does
the Data 3 system survive a CISC to RISC conversion? Before you ask about
source code and observability etc., I only spent 20 minutes talking with
this unfortunate fellow yesterday when I dropped off the PTF tapes.

<Laughter may resume>

Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978 Cell
708-923-7354 Home
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