Sure will Jim, I was JUST getting ready to chime in with that but you
beat me too it :-)

Also get some scanners - SpyCop from Spycop Software; VERY interesting
results even if you THINK you are OK... SpyBot Search & Destroy is
another one. And there are others too. Do you self a favor and check
these out, it gets uglier and uglier...

Chuck 

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Franz
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:28 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Janet Krueger on CBS....


a personal frewall like zone alarm can cut all that traffic back to the
"mothership". jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:45 AM
Subject: RE: Janet Krueger on CBS....


> > From: Joe Pluta
> >
> > Oops.  Unfortunately, CBS has decided to go purely RealVideo, and I 
> > won't put RealPlayer on any machine I own.
>
> I decided to do a little more research before casting aspersions on 
> the fine folks from RealMedia (or whatever they call themselves) and 
> in so doing found the following page:
>
> http://www.aluminumstudios.com/spyware/#cleanliving
>
> I highly suggest everyone with an Internet connection read this.  I 
> hadn't realized just how bad the spyware deal is, but evidently there 
> are programs that, upon installation, will begin "trickle-downloading"

> other programs that then act as spyware.  Other programs will actually

> hijack your DNS settings so as to resolve their outbound requests.
>
> Read the page, but more importantly follow the links.  Mr. Chen has 
> spent quite a bit of time creating what is in effect a primer on the 
> ugly fact of spyware.
>
> For example, he provided a link to this particularly startling story:
>
> http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/1471/IDG020221mediaplayer/
>
> <shiver>
>
> Joe
>
>
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