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--- Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This is pure unadulterated crap. The reason the > users need to > manipulate their data is because we the programmers > can't be bothered to > do it. We've all gotten fat and lazy and told the > users to use SQL and > leave us alone. And boy are we sowing what we reap. > And then we > complain about how there's no business! And what > kills me is that some > of the biggest complainers are the ones who want a > pushbutton WYSIWYG > interface to develop applications without having to > actually WRITE ANY Ø CODE. Remember the Movie, ?Invasion of the Body Snatchers?? I believe that after Y2K, partly due to the new demands in IT, the industry started trying to do away with the Skilled iSeries & Mainframe Application developers, consultants & analysts.. <smile>) ? and replaced them with the newer, (cheaper) generation of PC programmers. This is only natural because many of the skilled (iSeries & Mainframe) developers have not kept up with the newer technology, and management had little choice but to call on the PC Hackers (boy am I going to get some responses from this <HA>) to get the job done. And that they did. We?re reaping the results of this via Server Farms, Unstructured systems & applications due to lack of Industry experience, lack of Design experience & even lack of understanding Relational databases, etc. Just look at the many web-sites that are out there. Most have been written by inexperienced developers that does not understand application design. I didn?t until I had many years under my belt. I believe this is why we?re getting so much flack about PC Performance versus iSeries, etc. The new generation has NOT grown up with little or no system down time, doing upgrades or bringing down the system or network after hours instead of during business hours. This day and age, rebooting a PC is just a necessary sometimes daily activity, bringing down a network in the middle of the day is not ?out-of-the-question??.on and on?. I posted a problem situation a several days ago complaining about IBM & others teaching the benefits of front-ending the iSeries with non-iSeries platforms to help with security (somewhat like a Lightening Rod, I guess, <grin>). There were several books mentioned as being good books to learn about security. What I noticed is that the books are written by non-iSeries professionals, that probably don?t know what an iSeries is. Of course I believe that Security is just as important for iSeries as any other platform, but I bet that some of the problems that are addressed by many of the non-iSeries authors are perhaps more-necessary for the non-iSeries setup. My main reason for writing this post is not to put down the PC developer, but to address Joe?s statement about iSeries Developers being lazy and not keeping up with technology as they should. I believe that if the iSeries and Mainframe developers can get off their duff and begin learning and understanding, Web, Gui, Object oriented analysis & design (OOA&D), UML, XML.... then with our past development & business experience, we could really be accomplishing much more in the industry. Don McIntyre __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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