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I bet that makes the signon screen look fun. And if you've modified QDSIGNON... I always like that help "if your system communicates with other systems in a network, then all systems must be able to handle the longer password". Oh, the horrors of SNA. This "See the OS/400 Security Reference publication for additional considerations prior to changing this system value." might not be a bad idea. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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