I understand what you are saying.  Linus just starting the linux kernel is
as important as the GNU operating systems and utilities that wrap around it
that were started before Linus and his kernel.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jt" <jt@xxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: OS/400 on a Sun unix


> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> | [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rich Duzenbury
> | Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:40 PM
> | To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> | Subject: RE: OS/400 on a Sun unix
> |
> |
> |
> | >Perhaps you'd care to flush out more of the facts, (as you see them)??
> |
> | Perhaps you should try google at http://google.com:
> |
> | <http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html>
> |
> | In particular:
> | <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1991Oct5.054106.4647%40klaav
> | a.Helsinki.FI>
> |
> | Regards,
> | Rich
>
> Allow me to re-phrase my previous reply, and go into a little more
in-depth
> explanation:
>
> Thanks anyway, Rich, but I took a 2-second look at that link and
recognized
> it immediately as one I'd seen a long time ago...  Coincidently, I read it
> again just within this past week.
>
> Now, it's been published in the press that many view Mr. Torvalds as "God"
> and appear to be of the belief that his success was entirely of his own
> making...  Imo, imv (in my view), and/or as a matter of fact.. these are
> rather naive assumptions.
>
> I would call your attention to part of my previous post that you may have
> missed, Rich:
>
> | -----Original Message-----
>
> | However,
> | the truths
> | you are expressing are /very *partial*/ truths...
> |
> | I say that because you're telling of the story leaves out most of the
key
> | players in the saga.
> |
> | I would be curious as to your understanding of the roles of Eric
> | S. Raymond
> | (ESR http://armedndangerous.blogspot.com/) and Bruce Perens, for
example,
> | and the man whose shoulders they stood on, Richard M. Stallman
> | (RMS).  This
> | story began WAY before Mr. Torvalds coded the first line, I'm
> | sure of that,
> | and continues on (I believe) largely on the work of Dr. Lawrence Lessig
> | (http://www.lessig.org/blog/) among many others.
>
>
> I'm partially wondering if James is of these kind-a assumptions, as that
> would tell a lot about where his view is coming from.  And, at the same
> time, wondering if anyone can add some information that might give me a
> different perspective of the Linux Movement, which is quite different than
> that which James expressed.
>
> Regards,
> jt
>
>
>
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