RE: Model 170 for Personal Development

[Winchester Terry <terry.winchester@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Kurt,

<grin>  I hate being on a tight budget :)

Yes, I am going to confirm that the reseller can get
my name registered with IBM.  This is the main reason
I wanted the POE when I bought a system - it was my
understanding that the owner's name couldn't be changed
with IBM unless you had that special "paper".  

I wanted IBM to know that I had the system so that
if I hit the lottery I could afford to upgrade the
box ... LOL

Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Goolsbee [mailto:kurt.goolsbee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:57 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Model 170 for Personal Development
> 
> I've purchased lots of used AS/400 systems.  Nothing like 
> being on a budget.  Starting with V4 systems, the reseller can sell you
the 
> hardware only or they can transfer the OS400 license along with it.  As
far as 
> I can tell the POE (piece of paper) is not worth much.  Once the system is

> sold, IBM tracks ownership on a mainframe somewhere.  When they say Base
OS 
> they mean OS400 and some other non-chargeable options like Java and the
HTTP 
> server.  Other licensed programs, even if they are non-chargeable must
still 
> be licensed to be legit.  Check with the reseller, sometimes they have
POE's 
> that they will sell for other licensed programs like a compiler or PDM.  
> 
> *** One key thing you must get your reseller to do, is to submit the
> paperwork to IBM to get the machine registered in your name.  
> Without the transfer you will not be able to get an upgrade or a license 
> keys, should you need them, from IBM.  Without the resellers help you have

> a snowballs  chance of getting the IBM to change owners in their system.  
> This is without a doubt the biggest problem with buying used systems (even
if 
> you buy them used from IBM).
> 
> On the developer lease from IBM, the entry systems are at 
> 1.5% of list per  month for lease and 50% off for purchase.  
> 
> Kurt