RE: Microsoft goes after the iSeries -- MIDRANGE-L

That's a good question. Does anyone have iSeries sales numbers? New
installs, competitive installs, upgrades...


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: Microsoft goes after the iSeries
> From: "Booth Martin" <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, January 10, 2005 12:43 pm
> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Have iSeries sales actually declined?  I still wonder how any product
> can
> survive while Moore's Law is driving the selling prices into the
> ground. 

>  

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> Booth Martin

> http://www.martinvt.com

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> -------Original Message-------

>  

> From: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion

> Date: 01/10/05 08:30:22

> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'

> Subject: RE: Microsoft goes after the iSeries

>  

> Joe,

>  

> This has been a hot topic in print during the past couple weeks, paired
> with

> reports of a decline in iSeries sales for the 4th quarter.  I've read

> articles about Microsoft's Midrange Alliance at iSeries Network, MC
> Press

> Online, Midrange Server, and several other sources.

>  

> On a side note, several partners in the "alliance" are large
> consulting

> firms which are pioneers or leaders in Indian outsourcing.  We're
> seeing the

> convergence of major forces against the iSeries, which Microsoft is

> characterizing as a platform in decline.

>  

> The irony is that Microsoft is tailoring its message to RPG
> developers,

> telling them that IBM has abandoned them by its prolonged emphasis on
> Java,

> Websphere, J2EE, and Linux, which Microsoft claims has divided and
> weakened

> the iSeries platform.  There may be some truth to that, but we need
> to

> realize that it's a divisive tactic.  Microsoft and its partners would
> just

> as soon see the native environment further crippled by more
> applications

> migrating to Wintel servers.

>  

> I'd like to see IBM and iSeries developers answer this criticism by

> investing in, and promoting the native environment, as well as
> strengthening

> Java-ILE interfaces.  The iSeries is the best platform for hosting
> Web

> applications, which Microsoft must see as a threat to .Net.

>  

> Nathan.

>  

>  

> -----Original Message-----

> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Pluta

> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'

> Subject: Microsoft goes after the iSeries

>  

>  

> Up until now, I had been a fan of ASNA and their products.  That all
> changed

> when I read the following:

>  

> http://www.theserverside.net/news/thread.tss?thread_id=30588

>  

> The "Midrange Alliance Program" is Microsoft taking DIRECT aim at the

> iSeries, encouraging people to move off the platform to some

> cobbled-together wannabe.

>  

> They first tried the mainframe market, using a combination of Fujitsu

> hardware and Fujitsu NetCOBOL.  I'm not sure how well that's going (my
> guess

> is NOT), so now they've somehow convinced ASNA to jump to the dark
> side.

>  

> They're also partnering with the fine folks at California Software. 
> Now

> even Microsoft gets it... the vast panoply of RPG applications is
> simply too

> large to replace, so instead they want to move it lock, stock and
> barrel to

> Windows.

>  

> Since it can't beat the iSeries, MS will attempt to absorb it.  In
> that

> vein, .NET becomes the great amorphous blob under which all things can
> run.

> The IT department is reduced to a common mediocrity in hardware AND

> software.

>  

> "One .NET to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."

>  

> Joe

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