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> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:07 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Time to get serious
> 
> 
> Not sure why you take exception, Charles, I pretty much agree 
> with you.
> The problem is as you say that businesses don't know the 
> difference, and
> students are taking the easier way out.  Back in the day, I 
> didn't take
> CS courses to get a job, in fact I had to FIGHT to get my college to
> even offer computer courses, and then they stuck me in FORTRAN 101,
> where I knew more than the teacher.  I WANTED to learn about computers
> and logic and programming because frankly I love programming, which is
> probably why I know so many languages today.
> 
> The MIS degree is a job placement degree and is useless for those who
> need to design business applications.
> 
> Joe
> 

Joe,

You may agree, but the way you phrased the original quote and many of your 
postings in general seem to say that new graduates in general don't know how to 
program.

If you're talking about MIS grads, I'd agree.  That is not the case with CS 
grads.

I just wanted to clarify that IMHO, there is a difference.


Charles


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