RE: Promoting i5!

["Wilt, Charles" <CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob,

As I understand it, you already pay per processor for OS/400.

http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh072604-story01.html

"Each base box has a range of processor cores that are in it, from a base 
number of cores, up to the maximum in the box, which can be activated as 
needed. Each base machine has a certain number of i5/OS processors licensed as 
well. In general, the number of cores activated is higher than the number of 
i5/OS cores licensed."

"To activate i5/OS on a core costs $45,000, whether you are talking about 
Standard Edition or Enterprise Edition."


http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh090704-story02-fig01.html

When you compare the pricing of a 2-way i5 520 Standard Edition ($115,850) and 
a 2-way p5 520 ($30,114)  it seems to me that you could say that the first 
i5/OS license cost about $40,000.  (Assuming I'm comparing apples to apples :-)

In any event, we all know we pay a premium for i5/OS.  That's fine, it's worth 
it.  I'm just question the worth of i5/OS strictly as a SAN-OS with no OS/400 
workload at all.

With the lower powered boxes, you don't seem to be paying quite such a premium 
for that base i5/OS license.

Trevor says that "this solution competes very well with an equivalent set of 
Intel servers with VMWare and all the other software to manage the systems."

I'm willing to believe that.  But there must be a line somewhere after which a 
SAN or SAN + Linux only i5 doesn't compete; probably when you move above the 18 
IxS that a base 520 1-way can handle or move beyond a single base i5/OS license.


Charles Wilt
--
iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
ph: 513-573-4343
fax: 513-398-1121
 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:17 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Promoting i5!
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> 
> Charles,
> 
> i5's have been sold to customers with no existing i5/os 
> workload.  One 
> customer bought it as a large SAN and stuffed 32 IXS cards into it.
> 
> So, what are you suggesting on an i5?  Per processor 
> licensing of i5/OS? 
> That way if a bulk of the processor is tied up doing Unix or 
> Linux then it 
> doesn't increase up your i5/OS license fees?  Do you think 
> that vendors of 
> software designed to run under i5/OS would follow suit?  See 
> WRKLICINF 
> "Usage type  . . . . . . . . :   *PROCESSOR"
> 
> Hosting Linux underneath i5/OS does a better job of 
> virtualizing disk. 
> Trying to do that versus a dedicated partition...  I wonder 
> how processor 
> licensing would affect a large i5/os partition used mostly to 
> host Linux 
> partitions.
> 
> Rob Berendt
> -- 
> Group Dekko Services, LLC
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