Pete,
Sounds reasonable. I did check the system that did not prompt me for 2nd pass and it installed MF36564 during this one install. I'm not sure what the trigger is
that will call for that 2nd pass. I do know that this system had more recent
hipers than other system which prompted 2nd pass.
Given that many systems will prompt this 2nd run of option 8, this is not the cume
to split for a beer immediately after loading the cd's.
Jim Franz


----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Massiello" <pmassiello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Current cume 5298


Jim,

I would agree, but SI17595 can be applied *IMMED. So, why wouldn't IBM just have us load that PTF before we start the load of the cume package as we have done in previous packages? When I looked at the last time I installed the 5298 cume, I noticed that on the first IPL only MF36564 was applied during the IPL. I think that is the PTF which requires the 2nd IPL. Especially since one of the PTFs it superceeds has to do with the Linkloader.

   Pete

Jim Franz wrote:

Pete,
In my previous memo, I mentioned one machine did not prompt me to do the 2nd option 8. I think I have determined (from the PSP) that if you already have 5722ss1 si17595 installed, you will not have the 2nd pass. On both machines I left all the opt 8 defaults as is,
with the one option set to load both cume and groups (on both installs).
jim franz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Massiello" <pmassiello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Current cume 5298


William,
Its a two step process. Goes smooth, but you just need to load the Cume and Hypers, and then it will IPL and install ONLY the special required PTFs for the Link Loader and that's it. When you are done with that and the IPL completes, you go back, do a GO PTF take option 8, and enter *NONE in the device and it sets the rest of the PTFs to apply. That is the correct way of doing this. If you try to be cute and do a APYPTF LICPGM(*ALL) DELAYED(*NO or *IMMDLY) you might wind up shooting yourself in the foot as the IPL may fail when applying the PTFs. Its important to get the initial 1 or 2 PTFs loaded before you apply the rest of the PTFs. The instructions pretty much spell this out, but its something to be aware of, as the directions are different then most cume packages.

   Pete Massiello



Willie J. Moore wrote:

We are going to apply cume 5298 this weekend. I would like to know if there are any problems that anyone has ran into durning or afterwards appling the cume.
Thanks,
William....






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