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I can relate - we had Susan in for a class on WDSC - every programmer had it installed on their machine, we upgraded several that were old, paid to have them trained.....after two weeks they were all back to using SEU. Some of it is from legitimate concerns, other it's the paradigm shift, other's its from the DINO mentality. We will try again with the new version of WDSC I hope. Of course I was just going to change the authority on the commands - not delete it. Heck, I still have one programmer who swears by the old S/38 programming menu.........that brings back nightmares for me..... rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounce To s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 01/20/2006 08:46 cc AM Subject Re: VisualAge RPG for AS/400? Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> Boss shot down my suggestion to DLTCMD STRSEU right after we had Jon Paris spend a week here doing instruction on CODE (was a few years back). I thought that blasting that would have at least forced them to use it right away, get over any learning curve, and at least make an informed decision on which editor to use. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Trevor Perry" <tperry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 01/19/2006 10:48 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Fax to Subject Re: VisualAge RPG for AS/400? Why are we still entering data into a dumb terminal in the 21st century? I used a GUI tool to automate a green screen order entry function. Green screen terminals were previously used to enter orders, and the fastest clerk could get 80 orders a day. Now that it is automated and GUI, and he can do over 400 a day. In this case, the users did not ~want~ to replace their green screen entry. In a short time, however, they became familiar with the new interface, and now they do not ~want~ to replace their GUI order entry. This was a business decision made by management, and they were rewarded. So, should we allow programmers to keep using SEU and PDM because they just don't ~want~ to use RSE?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Paris" Subject: RE: VisualAge RPG for AS/400? > >> Why does a data entry clerk need the internet or anything BUT a green > screen, dumb terminal to enter the data??? > > Let's assume for the moment that they _don't_ need anything else. It is > still irrelevant. It is what they _want_ that matters, not what they > need. > And even if the users don't want it - their management still do. And they > are the ones who make the decisions. > > > The replacement by cruddy Windows/Oracle/nameYourPoison "solutions" of > large > numbers of iSeries around the world should be enough for all of us to take > that as a given. I know of one case where a system that allowed a 5250 > operator to process 10 - 15 orders an hour was replaced by an Oracle based > solution. Even after tripling the hardware beyond the original spec for > the > iSeries replacement, they could still only manage 4 - 5 orders an hour. > But > they are still using it - the 5250s are gone. Does it make sense? No. > But > nobody ever said it had to! > > Jon Paris > Partner400 -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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