Re: Rural Outsourcing

["Jim Franz" <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

i never meant to imply "who you know" ever equates with "who looks like me 
(same
race, se*(spell for the email filters)religion, etc)). It is sad state that 
people still run into
discrimination. For myself, I'm sticking to projects involving specific 
software, or specialty
work like security, dr, e-commerce, rather than the highest rate i can get 
coding rpg. By
this plan, my last unemployment was Ronald Reagan's summer 
recession/depression.....
jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jen Raihala" <jen_raihala@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Rural Outsourcing


> Well, than could all of us here say we know each other...just in case :o)
>
>  That was my experience when I was job hunting. I got the impression  from 
> the interviews that as a female, I had no business trying to take  a man's 
> job from the hiring pesonnel's buddy. One interviewer (the  superintendant 
> of the school system), who should have known better,  kept telling me that 
> the IT job only started at 16 per hour, but the  janitors start at 18. I 
> had seen the list of the test scores: I beat  all the men (I was the only 
> woman trying for the job) all the written  tests on computer parts id, 
> multiple choice Windows and Mac op and  networking systems. Of all the 
> interviews, that one rankled my hide the  most.
>
>  Then I found an ad for this little company in northwest Iowa (after 2 
> years of searching for a job) that interviewed and hired me the same  day.
>
>  Only trouble is now I have to tell the Iowa side of the Minnesota/Iowa 
> jokes...but I absolutely refuse to support the Kansas City Chiefs.  Good, 
> bad or ugly, I bleed purple and gold.
>
> Jim Franz <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  (for me) it's still who you 
> know.... I see jobs get filled by someone
> recommending someone else - not by job listings and web posting boards.
> To put it bluntly, that's a cr** shoot way to hire. The job listings go up
> when contacts don't find the right person. I would agree
> the days of a 'warm body coder' are about gone. You need to really know
> some particular app or certain niche skill, especially for telecomute. 
> I've
> been
> telecomuting for over 7 years and contract/consulting for decades before
> that,
> and it has always been who & what you know.
> Many companies will not lead with telecommute, but if your the right
> person & skillset for the job, they may very well consider it (especially 
> if
> you ask for relocation expenses if not a telecommute).
> jim franz
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rich Duzenbury"
> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Rural Outsourcing
>
>
> > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 17:28 -0600, Shannon ODonnell wrote:
> >
> > > But she does make a great point.  Why in the world would any company 
> > > want
> > > to
> > > send programming work to India when you can get quality, reasonably
> > > priced
> > > work done right here in the U.S. through the use of rural-outsourcers?
> > I don't know.  I've lived in central Iowa for about ten years now.  I
> > can work for my customers in California and other 'high rent' places for
> > a decent wage, but with an Iowa expense level.  However, I've noticed
> > that jobs are getting harder to come by, even so.
> >
> > If it's so great, than why is it rare?  I ran a quick search on dice.com
> > for 'RPG or ILE or AS/400 or AS400 or i5 or iSERIES'.  1043 results.
> > Check the 'telecommute only' box and watch that drop to fifteen.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rich
> >
> >
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